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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 5:15 p.m.
Thread: Blessing in disguise
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Sorry if that example was hard for you to understand in complete sentences</div></div>

lmfao, It's just not at all how any of this works. You aren't even factoring in games played between the two. Teams don't just look at the stat sheet of one season, and pair up two trades and compare what they got, there are so many other factors in this. You are comparing these things like they are a math equation and not like a hockey trade for some very strange reason. Teams over pay and under pay all the time, nobody cares what player A got vs what player B got. Because if you want to do that, then I'm just going to hold the Tarasenko trade over your head.

Vatrano at full cap hit is worth a 1st, or a 1st and a minor pick/prospect, which I already said I'd throw in with no issues. It's not my fault your GM decided to retain 400k for no reason, because you'd get so much more if you could retain; you can look back at the many teams I've made where I did a 1st and Kakko for Vatrano + retention. We'll just have to come back to this Friday if a trade happens
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 4:49 p.m.
Thread: Blessing in disguise
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Retention spots have like 4th round pick value at the TDL depending on the amount retained, what are we even talking about right now?

Okay then though, here’s a different perspective. Mantha reeled in a 2nd &amp; 4th while producing 70% of Vatrano. He was retained to bring his contract to $2.8M. That means Vatrano producing like he is at next deadline (140% of Mantha) retained to $1.8M (65% of Mantha) is certainly worth more. It’s not at all a stretch to assume that’s a first. So what incentive does ANA have trading away their top scorer now for the same return they can get in a year after retaining the services of their best offensive player?</div></div>

lmfao, You don't even know what you're trying to say with this convoluted Mantha example. What on earth are you on about? "Their top scorer"... as if ANA are going anywhere or that matters? And what if Vatrano doesn't produce as heavy next year, which is very likely? Then he tanks down.

Chips are down, smoke is cleared: Vatrano at full cap hit is worth a 1st round pick. If you could retain, then you get the prospect and minor pick. But that's your fault for retaining 400k on Carrick, not mine. So, now that goes to another team that can eat his 50%.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 4:31 p.m.
Thread: Blessing in disguise
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Carrick is a 4th liner. His value was that of the conditional 5th/4th

Henrique with retention = 1st (just how Lindholm and Monahan reeled in similar returns with similar production). Henrique at 50% retention brought him within like $800k of Vatrano at full cost.

So let me rephrase. You think Henrique on an expiring deal at $2.8M is worth more than Vatrano with another year at $3.6M? You’re aware Vatrano is on nearly a 40 goal pace, right?</div></div>

2 retention slots is not worth a 5th round pick, I don't care what line the dude plays on. The trade was made and he literally ate up your last retention slot.

Your question is not an apples for apples comparison. I don't understand why you're trying to make it out to be one.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 6 at 3:57 p.m.