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Dear everybody trading for Laine

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Team: 2019-20 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 17, 2019
Published: Sep. 17, 2019
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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You would have to give us a package worth more than four firsts.
Think about it, it should cost more than an offersheet because you are guarunteed his rights. You can't just give us the offersheet value because if we were content with that we could just wait for a big offersheet and not match. But here's the other thing, an offersheet is so unlikely to go through. To make an attempt successful you would have to: a) give him a contract Winnipeg wouldn't match and b) (here's the important part) get him to sign it. The likelihood of that happening is very low, and is getting lower each day as new contracts are decreasing the total cap space available around the league meaning there's less teams able to help free up space so you can make this offer.
Plus him resigning was always the most likely scenario anyways. So to acquire him through trade you would need to pony up either a monster package, or a young playmaking 2C that is 1C caliber/top 4 RHD (think number 3 at least) signed for term on a good deal.
(Deep breath)
But on another note, have a good day guys! ?
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
11$81,500,000$42,762,878$0$3,750,000$38,737,122
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,275,000$5,275,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,083,333$6,083,333
C
UFA - 2
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$3,954,545$3,954,545
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000 (Performance Bonus$1,200,000$1M)
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 (Performance Bonus$800,000$800K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2

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Sep. 17, 2019 at 8:31 p.m.
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what if the offer included taking some dead weight contract/
Sep. 17, 2019 at 8:37 p.m.
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You seem to fail to understand that Laine is only available in a trade if he can't be re-signed by WPG i.e. he doesn't want to play for you and/or he's too expensive and you can't get him under cap. In both cases, Laine's value drops. If WPG wants Laine, Laine wants to play in WPG and WPG can get him under the cap, there is no deal to be had. All the proposed trades for Laine are assuming the former i.e. Laine is available.
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Sep. 17, 2019 at 8:54 p.m.
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For Columbus or Montreal to trade for Laine, with cap space to match most offers, but without any reason to believe he's worth 12M if the other somehow offer sheets him to that, the offer sheet compensation of four first round picks is the maximum they should consider trading for an un-signed Laine, because that could be all they end up with if they can't sign him before some other team offersheets him.

For teams without extra cap space, the most they should trade is the compensation for the lowest offer sheet they can't match. For instance, a Winnipeg fan commented the other day that they'd trade Laine for John Carlson. I laughed it off at first. Tonight I tried to build a Caps team to see if/how that could work for Washington. I was able to clear cap space to offer Laine an 8M AAV. If an offersheet comes in at 9M, then, I'd have to either make more trades at a loss, to match, or take two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd, and call that a good enough return for seven years of John Carlson, who could fetch that as a rental.

RFA might seem pretty cool to Winnipeg, when they imagine getting four first picks from a struggling team for a guy they don't even really need, since Connor is good enough at 1L, but trading for an RFA can be a real liability in a summer that has reportedly seen two pretty big offersheets written, already. Does that make sense? Might have to work out an NBA-style sign-and-trade to move Laine to some teams. I know they don't typically happen in the NHL, but neither did offer sheets until pretty recently. Things change, even in hockey.
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Sep. 17, 2019 at 9:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Rocket88
what if the offer included taking some dead weight contract/


Honestly shouldn't make it that much less. If the Jets trade Laine they won't likely need the space anyway.
Sep. 17, 2019 at 9:12 p.m.
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You seem to fail to understand that Laine is only available in a trade if he can't be re-signed by WPG i.e. he doesn't want to play for you and/or he's too expensive and you can't get him under cap. In both cases, Laine's value drops. If WPG wants Laine, Laine wants to play in WPG and WPG can get him under the cap, there is no deal to be had. All the proposed trades for Laine are assuming the former i.e. Laine is available.


Even if he doesn't want to play, the Jets wouldn't have to trade him since they'd still own his rights. Plus if we played our cards right we should still be able to get a bridge done closer to the November deadline. Then you try to convince him to stay long term, and if that doesn't work you start listening to offers. He's still four years away from UFA. There's no need to rush.
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