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Mang gotta go

Created by: oilfire
Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 24, 2022
Published: Dec. 27, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
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NMC
UFA - 5
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I think we've got to seriously consider moving Mangiapane before his NTC kicks in. He's not cracking the top 6 and we already have too many expensive bottom 6 guys. It would probably be better for him as well, especially on a younger team like Arizona.

Arizona can afford him, will likely see some value in both Mangiapane and Kylington, Rooneys a dump but the 2 1sts should be enough. If not we could even throw in Pelletier, barring injuries, it doesn't look like he'll crack the lineup any time soon.

Chychrun may not be what we need but he's proving to be quite good this year and is good insurance if Hanifin won't resign. He's also one of the best pieces from one of the few teams that can afford to take on Mangiapane. If we have to pay for good players to go out the door, might as well try and get something good in return. Very few teams can afford to take a chance on Mangiapane with his term.

Most would be concerned with Chychruns injury history, but he doesn't need to play 20+ minutes a night here. If things work out Stone should be able to rotate in and do some load management for him and Tanev.

It's not the first time I've tried this, but I see all sorts of trades giving up Dube, Backlund, Vladar etc. Dubes producing more, has better +/-, costs half as much and is fitting in on the top 6. Backlunds awesome in the dot, can fill in as 2C and is the longest standing Flame. Vladars been great, the only reason I could see wanting to move him is to make room for Wolf.

In a few years it's probably going to look like a bad move, but we just can't afford to let him find his game over the next few years.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
Trades
ARI
  1. Kylington, Oliver
  2. Mangiapane, Andrew
  3. Rooney, Kevin
  4. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
2024 conditional on whether MTL takes it, get 2025 instead if so.
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$69,187,500$0$200,000$13,312,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
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UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 2

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Dec. 27, 2022 at 12:48 a.m.
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Would love to have Mangiapane in Buffalo. We don't really have big pieces to sell but could definitely clear cap space for you and give you an asset or two to go shopping with.
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Dec. 27, 2022 at 1:16 a.m.
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How about Edmundson 50% retained and Anderson for that package?
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Dec. 27, 2022 at 1:20 a.m.
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This is a ridiculous take, saying he's not cracking the top 6 is just dumb. He's quite clearly top 6 in ice time by well over a minute. Backlund is the "3rd line center" but has the 2nd highest ice time among all forwards on the team.

Mangiapane has been scoring at well under his average shooting percentage over the last 3-4 years he will certainly pick it up and i expect being reunited with his linemates from last year will definitely light a spark
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Dec. 27, 2022 at 1:33 a.m.
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How about Edmundson 50% retained and Anderson for that package?


Sutter would probably like it, it doesn't give me the cap space that I'm trying to make though.
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Dec. 27, 2022 at 2:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This is a ridiculous take, saying he's not cracking the top 6 is just dumb. He's quite clearly top 6 in ice time by well over a minute. Backlund is the "3rd line center" but has the 2nd highest ice time among all forwards on the team.

Mangiapane has been scoring at well under his average shooting percentage over the last 3-4 years he will certainly pick it up and i expect being reunited with his linemates from last year will definitely light a spark


Everybody's good next to Backlund, let's try Rosy or Pelletier or Zary instead. His ice time is from not producing next to Kadri. Not only was he not producing but he's getting scored on as well.

I don't want the most expensive 3rd line in the league when we have other options. I'd like some money kicking around to pay raises to guys who are earning it, rather than sending them out the door so we can afford to give Mangiapane a chance to find his game.

If he gets off the schnide and starts scoring this is a different conversation but right now he's not worth getting locked into with the rest of the contracts we're locked into. He hasn't done anything in the past 5 games, barely done anything in the last 10. Every time he scores I think "great he's gonna get rolling", then he just goes quiet again.

Backlunds ice time is coming from the penalty kill and when he was basically our 1C next to Huby. I'm pretty sure when everything is running smoothly that line plays closer to 12-15 min. Look at Colemans TOI for a better representation.
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