I keep seeing a lot of trades that have LA receiving Chychrun and Vejmelka while dumping Petersen for less than the current reported asking price of Chychrun alone. There's obviously no way Arizona is going for that.
The reported current asking price for Chychrun is "Two 1 round picks or prospect equivalents, plus." Whether or not that's a reasonable asking price is irrelevant. Arizona seems content to hang on to Chychrun if they don't get their price, so there's no reason for proposals with any less.
I don't think goaltenders are worth 1st round picks, and I don't think Vejmelka warrants some of the crazy returns that I've seen around here. I think he's worth a 2nd round pick and a "good" prospect. Not Byfield or Clarke good, not even Kupari or Spence good, but also not a career AHLer.
Turcotte and Durzi would usually be worth more than a 2nd round pick, but Durzi is too old to be a top quality target for Arizona's plans, and Turcotte has too many question marks surrounding their development, so they lose some value here.
I've broken the Kings best assets down into three tiers. Not all of these guys are available, and I didn't include Anderson or Bjornfot who won't be moved due to positional needs.
Tier B
Top quality lesser pieces: Turcotte, Kupari, Durzi, Spence
2nd round picks: 2023, 2024
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Tier C
Additional assets: ****emo, Madden, Thomas, Pinelli, Grans, etc.
3rd round picks: 2023 (x2), 2024
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Chychrun will cost two "Tier A" assets and one "Tier C" asset. Vejmelka will cost one "Tier B asset" and one "Tier C" asset. If the Kings want to dump Petersen, it will cost a Tier B asset.
Based on that, here's the minimum amount I think the Kings would realistically have to give up to get Chychrun & Vejmelka out of Arizona while dumping Petersen.
My conclusion is that it's too much and the Kings shouldn't do it.
I'd value Durzi and Spence both being right shot playing the right side defensemen higher on the value chart then Kaliyev any day of the week. Kali has a great shot but there are plenty of young left handers out there with a great shot. But I definitely agree with the fact that if the Kings were to try and target both guys from AZ that it would cost them way too much.
I'd value Durzi and Spence both being right shot playing the right side defensemen higher on the value chart then Kaliyev any day of the week. Kali has a great shot but there are plenty of young left handers out there with a great shot. But I definitely agree with the fact that if the Kings were to try and target both guys from AZ that it would cost them way too much.
This isn't pure trade value, but rather what each player would be worth to Arizona. Durzi is 24 and older than what they're looking for in their rebuild time frame. Spence has great potential, but that's not realized at the NHL level yet, and Arizona would value a sure thing over a guy who has had massive success at lower levels, but hasn't been given a real shot in the NHL yet.
Kaliyev has proven to be a strong two-way player that is a scoring threat in the NHL. His 5v5 offensive production hasn't been fantastic, but he's deadly on the power play. His defensive play is above average as well. Given that he's only 21, I think Arizona would value him higher than Durzi.
I like your thinking. If you want something sometimes you have to overpay. First question, do you as GM want these two AZ players. My answer yes. Then if that is the case your trade is reasonable although I think you can replace Vilardi with Turcotte.