Looking for feedback on trade cost - again

Created by: KrakenTheCode

Team: 2023-24 Seattle Kraken

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2023

Published: Jun. 17, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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McDavid, Connor

$12,500,000 ( Performance Bonus

$250,000)

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UFA - 5

Description

As I've said before, I believe this offseason will be a quiet one for the Kraken, and they will likely spend most of their time and cap space re-signing their RFAs and making more subtle additions to round out the roster. However, the potential remains for them to make a big splash via the trade market. Based on reporting in recent weeks, I've identified four high level players who might be available and would both fit the Kraken and make the team better. As such, I'm looking for opinions from these players' current team's fanbase on what they think their franchise would be looking for in return. Those players are:

Noah Hanifin, LD, Calgary Flames
Travis Konecny, RW, Philadelphia Flyers
Alex DeBrincat, LW, Ottawa Senators
Erik Karlsson, RD, San Jose Sharks

I've included on the main roster every Seattle player who could be competing for a roster spot in the NHL next year, and re-signed all RFAs to give people an idea of what they will likely get on their next contract. In the scratches column are Kraken prospects of note.

Thanks in advance!

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Borgen, William	4	$2,500,000
Dunn, Vince	8	$7,000,000
Fleury, Cale	2	$850,000
Geekie, Morgan	2	$1,750,000
Lind, Kole	2	$850,000
Sprong, Daniel	3	$2,250,000
DeBrincat, Alex	8	$8,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Daccord, Joey		2	$1,100,000

Trades

SEA

Hanifin, Noah

CGY

What would Calgary want?

Fit with Seattle: Hanifin's a bonafide top four defenseman who is effective on both ends of the ice and is still in his prime. He would fill the void left by Soucy with someone even better. Making the money work on adding him is relatively simple and Calgary wouldn't have to take back salary if they didn't want to. I do think trading for Hanifin is only feasible if he agrees to an extension beforehand or if Seattle is confident they can lock him up before he reaches free agency next year.

SEA

Konecny, Travis

PHI

What would Philadelphia want?

Fit with Seattle: Konecny's a goalscorer who scored above a point per game, something none of Seattle's forwards have done..yet. He's also under contract for two seasons at a reasonable rate, so Seattle wouldn't have to shed much salary. One of their depth forwards would likely be on the move in this scenario to clear roster space, depending on who that is they could be sent to the Flyers in the deal or elsewhere for assets.

SEA

DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]

OTT

What would Ottawa want?

Fit with Seattle: DeBrincat's another goalscoring winger in his prime; even if he had a down season, he contributes elsewhere on the ice besides putting pucks in the net, something the Kraken front office really values. Weirdly, fitting him on the roster was more difficult than Karlsson. The Kraken would likely have to move out two forwards in order to afford his salary. Perhaps they could be sent to Ottawa as part of the return for DeBrincat if the Senators had interest.

SEA

Karlsson, Erik ($2,500,000 retained)

SJS

What would San Jose want?

Fit with Seattle: Karlsson's contract term combined with his age makes me nervous, and trading for him would be a bigger risk than anyone else on this list. However, he's also an elite offensive RD who would be a boon to Seattle's power play, something that needs improvement. In this scenario the Sharks retain $2M-$2.5M of his cap hit; any less and the Kraken wouldn't be able to fit him onto the roster, any more and it would hinder the Sharks. At a cap hit of $9-$9.5M, Seattle would still have to move money out, but fitting Karlsson under the cap was surprisingly feasible.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
34	$83,500,000	$88,114,352	$129,910	$1,965,000	-$4,614,352

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
McCann, Jared $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Beniers, Matthew $897,500$897,500 ($1,850,000$2M) C RFA - 1	Eberle, Jordan $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Schwartz, Jaden $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 3	Wennberg, Alexander $2,250,000$2,250,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Burakovsky, André $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Tolvanen, Eeli $1,450,000$1,450,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Gourde, Yanni $5,166,666$5,166,666 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Bjorkstrand, Oliver $5,400,000$5,400,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Geekie, Morgan $1,750,000$1,750,000 C, RW RFA - 2	Sprong, Daniel $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Kartye, Tye $859,167$859,167 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 2	Wright, Shane $918,333$918,333 C RFA - 4	Lind, Kole $850,000$850,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dunn, Vince $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Larsson, Adam $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Grubauer, Philipp $5,900,000$5,900,000 G NTC UFA - 4
Oleksiak, Jamie $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 3	Borgen, William $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Daccord, Joey $1,100,000$1,100,000 G UFA - 2
Evans, Ryker $897,500$897,500 LD RFA - 2	Schultz, Justin $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Driedger, Chris $3,500,000$3,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Megna, Jaycob $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1	Fleury, Cale $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Winterton, Ryan $828,333$828,333 C RFA - 3		Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Ottavainen, Ville $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) RD RFA - 3		Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Melanson, Jacob $826,111$826,111 RW RFA - 3		DeBrincat, Alex $8,000,000$8,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Firkus, Jagger $923,333$923,333 RW RFA - 4		Karlsson, Erik $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 4
Nyman, Jani $923,333$923,333 LW, RW RFA - 4
Kokko, Niklas $923,333$923,333 G RFA - 4
Goyette, David $923,333$923,333 C RFA - 4
Nelson, Ty $867,500$867,500 RD RFA - 4

Top Comments

Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:12 p.m.

GuyGuyGuy

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Hanifin cost a first and another smaller piece
Konecny cost the equivalent of two first and a second
Debrincat cost Firkkus, a first and another piece
Karlsson cost a first, a B prospect and salary going back

Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:13 p.m.

Armetholist

Joined: Jun. 2023

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Honestly for DeBrincat you'd want to maxmize what you're getting in return but it was mentioned that sens offer last year was the best one that was offered for him. Based on that and considering his down season + No term i'd say a mid-late first and two seconds, or perhaps a high first and a third, something along those lines but Pierre Dorion is a professional moron so honestly anything could happen. I would assume they take him to arbitration and don't trade him but that's just the return i'd assume if they want to trade him.

Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:15 p.m.

LosPatos

Joined: Dec. 2019

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I think the only one here that makes sense is Konecny. I think a trade would look like:

Tolvanen
Robertson ?
2023 1st Round Pick
2023 2nd Round Pick (WPG)

That’s just a plain guess though. I think Flyers fans could ask for more. But that’s just me.

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Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.

Steven_Stamkos

Joined: Feb. 2023

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I think these could all be great fits for Seattle. I hadn’t thought about Hanifin and Konecny but they both seem like they would fit like a glove in Seattle. Seattle doesn’t really have a ton of movable pieces that I think would interest Philly. With a thin prospect pool, I think you would have to dig into your draft picks to take a swing at Konecny but I’m all for it. Calgary would have more interest in roster players since they aren’t tearing down the house.

Jun. 17, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.

OldSchool

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In terms of Konecny to Seattle the cost would be something like a 1st in 2023, future 2nd round pick, and ONE OF Goyette or Nelson. If you want the Flyers to take some salary back bump up the future 2nd to a 2023 second for sure.

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