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My ask revised

Created by: arafay
Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 14, 2023
Published: Jul. 14, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
My ask has not changed, but they hellebuyck contract has. Here's my salary breakdown:
Y1: 10M
Y2: 9.5M
Y3: 9M
Y4: 7.5M
Y5: 5M
Y6: 4M
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= 7.5Mx6years

I'd still ask for holtz and vanacek. The first isn't mandatory, but since it's a late 1st anyway it doesn't hold so much value. A second would do though with an additional 3rd instead. That being said, the first is really fair since the jets are retaining the full year in a tight cap season.

Whether NJ is willing to pay this or not, chevy has proven to be patient and he will wait until he get something he wants or close.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$6,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,100,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Vanecek, Vitek
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor ($3,083,333 retained)
2.
WPG
NJD
  1. Chisholm, Declan [RFA Rights]
  2. Stanley, Logan [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
moved to the highest bidders/prospect swap
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,968,691$0$1,700,000-$468,691
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 1

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Jul. 14, 2023 at 11:49 p.m.
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As a neutral fan in this argument, I have seen Devils fans offering literal garbage, so I know why Jets fans would be irritated, but I still see no realistic world where Holtz and a First are both included in the same deal for a goalie. It's either Holtz with a 2nd or a 1st with a prospect down a tier like Stillman. A negotiation requires both sides to budge, and if the Jets won't budge i don't think the market to sell him will be there. Not enough teams are forming a big line to get a goalie.
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 11:57 p.m.
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As a neutral fan in this argument, I have seen Devils fans offering literal garbage, so I know why Jets fans would be irritated, but I still see no realistic world where Holtz and a First are both included in the same deal for a goalie. It's either Holtz with a 2nd or a 1st with a prospect down a tier like Stillman. A negotiation requires both sides to budge, and if the Jets won't budge i don't think the market to sell him will be there. Not enough teams are forming a big line to get a goalie.


couldnt have said better myself.
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Jul. 15, 2023 at 12:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
As a neutral fan in this argument, I have seen Devils fans offering literal garbage, so I know why Jets fans would be irritated, but I still see no realistic world where Holtz and a First are both included in the same deal for a goalie. It's either Holtz with a 2nd or a 1st with a prospect down a tier like Stillman. A negotiation requires both sides to budge, and if the Jets won't budge i don't think the market to sell him will be there. Not enough teams are forming a big line to get a goalie.


I completely agree. I think the actual deal comes down to something a bit less than I said, as it always is in a deal.

As I said, I would probably take vanacek, holtz, a 2nd, and a mid round pick/prospect.
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Jul. 15, 2023 at 8:34 a.m.
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He'll wait
Jul. 15, 2023 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
As a neutral fan in this argument, I have seen Devils fans offering literal garbage, so I know why Jets fans would be irritated, but I still see no realistic world where Holtz and a First are both included in the same deal for a goalie. It's either Holtz with a 2nd or a 1st with a prospect down a tier like Stillman. A negotiation requires both sides to budge, and if the Jets won't budge i don't think the market to sell him will be there. Not enough teams are forming a big line to get a goalie.


Plenty of Devs fans much more realistic (along your idea) then most Jets fans. This post is a perfect example of that. We trust Fitzy will do the right thing.
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