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Flames Players That Are Actually FOR SALE

Created by: KingofRnR
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 12, 2023
Published: Nov. 12, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
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Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
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Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Here’s the deal, if Zadorov will drop his Snake of an Agent = Dan Milstein 🐍 and Sign for 3-6 years @ $3.75-4.25 (higher than I personally want) than we’re good and can make up

Zadorov’s simply more valuable to me than a 1st and we have other guys coming up, to compete with Bean (or Kylington if he sticks around, but I think he’s finished in CGY), like Poirier & Solovyov who are both NHL Ready

Not only do I think we can Win with this Team, but we rid ourselves or the disgruntled cancer in the room, open up TOI for Zadorov and fill the Cupboards with Quality Picks & Five Decent Prospects, one having familiarity with Poirier & Kuznetsov and the other with Coronato already

Can’t edit and don’t want to re-do Trade due to order, but the 3rd could come off the Tanev deal OR could add one/something. since either Jarnkrok/Domi have the value of a 3rd themselves
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Peeke, Andrew
  3. Sillinger, Cole
  4. 2024 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Example, could be CAR or another Team
CBJ
  1. Lindholm, Elias
Additional Details:
Value 1st + Top Prospect + Very Good Roster Player (or Two Okay Ones)
2.
CGY
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Langlois, Jérémy [Reserve List]
  3. Söderström, Victor
  4. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Could be NYI Instead
ARI
  1. Hanifin, Noah
Additional Details:
Value: 1st + Former Top Prospect + 2nd + 2nd + Cap Dump
3.
CGY
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Villeneuve, William
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
If not Jarnkrok than Domi maybe!? If Not TOR, then EDM or VAN
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Value 50% Retained: 1st + 3rd + Sweetener to Win The Tanev Sweepstakes + Cap Dump/Roster Player
4.
CGY
  1. Duclair, Anthony
  2. Kähkönen, Kaapo
  3. Kunin, Luke
Additional Details:
Tell me Grier doesn’t do this
SJS
  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Sharangovich, Yegor
  3. Vladar, Daniel
Additional Details:
Honestly, I want anybody managed by Dan Milstein Gone, so that includes Sharangovich and Vladar
5.
CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Klingberg, John
  3. Samsonov, Ilya ($1,550,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Completely Unnecessary Trade and Assumes Klingberg Approves
TOR
  1. Markström, Jacob
  2. Nikolayev, Ilya
  3. Strömgren, William
Additional Details:
Completely Unnecessary Trade and Assumes Markstrom Apprivee
6.
CGY
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Pickard, Calvin
Additional Details:
Doesn’t need to happen, but if EDM wants Goalie Help
EDM
  1. Emilio Pettersen, Mathias
  2. Samsonov, Ilya ($1,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
I’m fine to keep both Samsonov and Kahkonen and flip the better one at the TDL
7.
CGY
  1. Teräväinen, Teuvo
Additional Details:
Not sure whether CAR is even interested or that we should be moving our Captain and Coleman & Mangiapane's Centre, but if he's still remotely disgruntled, especially with all of the above moves, then see ya, we're going younger
CAR
  1. Backlund, Mikael
Additional Details:
Value: 2nd Round Pick or Decent Player/RFA
Retained Salary Transactions
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,500,000$82,648,332$0$1,727,500$851,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
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RFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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UFA - 1
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$2,333,333$2,333,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$817,778$817,778 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1

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Nov. 12, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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These are long explanations for Flames Fans who like to read, please don't respond to this particular post, just make a clean/fresh reply with your comment below:

-So here's what's happening, we're wiping out any cancer = remnants of the old core who are unhappy or disgruntled by the Huberdough & Kadri Signings, having had Sutter as their Coach and The Flames lack of success since in favour of New/Younger Blood

1. Lindholm's better than Horvat and just as good, yet much cheaper than Eichel (his herniated disk, questionable future and huge Cap Hit were gambles and reduced his trade value at the time he was traded), so his Trade Value is somewhere between the two
2. Hanifin's Trade comparable is Hampus Lingholm
3. Tanev's Trade Value is Chiarot or Savard when he was Trade to TBL.  The interest and demand for him is huge, thus there'll be a bidding war and with retention, he easily garners more than a 1st +3rd.  Also, take out the 3rd going to Calgary because whether it's Jarnkrok or Domi coming back, they're worth a 3rd each by themselves
4. I can't imagine Grier or SJ Fans saying no to this, but I'm ridding us of Milstein rep'd Vladar for Kahkonen & Sharangovich for Duclair and moving on from RFA Dube for RFA Kunin
5. I'm moving on from Markstrom hoping Treliving still values him highly, while at the same time dumping Milstein rep'd Nikoleyev.  I don't want Klingberg, but if it helps us get out of Markstrom's contract, great!
6. I'm taking advantage of EDM's need for a Quality Goalie on the Cheap who should excel with a change of scenery and buying low on the struggling Calgary Born Holloway.  Alternative, we could charge a 1st RD Pick instead.  Goalies are usually only worth a 2nd/3rd, but with retention and given this is an inter-division Trade that helps our #1 Rival, we force them to over pay
7. If it makes sense to move on from our Captain, Backlund's best Trade comparables are Mikael Granlund/2nd, Haula/Zacha and L.Eller/2nd.  With Term, I believe he's worth Pending UFA Teravainen who seems to have slipped in CAR the last couple seasons and could probably use a change of scenery.  Yes, he has 9 Goals this season, but whatever he's not back to being a 1.00PPG Player and we could lose him for nothing via Free Agency
Nov. 12, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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These are long explanations for Flames Fans who like to read, please don't respond to this particular post, just make a clean/fresh reply with your comment:

Why these Players in return, from Top to Bottom?: Realistically, we don't have any elite players right now, other than maybe Andersson, so we need to go with balanced lines throughout.  

1. I really don't think Jarnkrok is substantially worse than Lindholm and given an opportunity in the Top-6, he should produce and protect/insulate Kadri & Zary
2. Teravainen is similar to Mangiapane, but can play Centre. He's way more offensive than Backlund
3. Obviously I'm reuniting Huberdough with Duclair for familiarity, chemistry and past success.  Sam Bennett ain't coming back and @MoxNix believes it was Bennett and his Hard Gritty Play who was the main factor in Huby's success, so I'm gambling on Kunin being that guy and rebounding huge.  It's time to move on from Dube who never found a place he really fit in our line-up whereas if Kunin fails, he's the ideal Bottom-6 guy that fits CGY's identity and shouldn't cost terribly much to re-sign given his lack of production the last few seasons
4. The 4th line, is self-explanatory. Pospisil is cementing himself as the hard forechecker we want/need and AJ Greer's the muscle we usually have and Fighter we need, even though he's not a Great Fighter.  
5. So what, we part with Lindholm who looks completely disinterested and unengaged as Calgary Flame now.  Good, it's a blessing in disguise.  We need to go Younger and clearly Zary & Pospisil are proving the next generation has more skills and abilities and signing Lindholm long-term wou;d be a huge mistake.  I brought in two Young Former 1st Round Picks in Sillinger & Holloway to compete with Zary & Ruzicka for a Top 6 Centre position
6. It's time to move on from Hanifin & Tanev, but we should convince Big-Z to drop his Agent and stay.  He's just not as easily replaceable as many believe.  I brought Matt Dumba home, hoping he rebounds and brough Klingberg too in case he doesn't.  I brought former 1st Round Picks Jake Bean (Calgary Born) and Andrew Peeke (fits CGY's identity and desperately needs a change of scenery) and Victor Soderstrom in as well.
7. Kylington likely never returns, so Bean's a good Hanifin/Kylington replacement and competition for Poirier.  Peeke is good competition for Gilbert & Solovyov, but holds the advantage, being a True RD.  If he fails, we now have depth in Soderstrom
8. I brought in Abruzzese for Coronato and Villeneuve for Poirier & Kuznetsov
9. Finally, if Jarnkrok, Teravainen, Kunin or Holloway don't pan out and we end up moving them in the off-season or they become Bottom-6 Players, no biggie, we have Coronato (he'll be back up shortly I bet), Klapka, Schwindt, Pelletier and Honzek waiting and likely ready to come up next season anyways
Nov. 12, 2023 at 3:53 p.m.
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I get Lindholm is a really good top 6 center but I don’t know how you can say he’s worth nearly double what Horvat returned. A first and a good prospect and a roster player for cap purposes would be the most I’d expect if I’m the Flames.
Nov. 12, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 12, 2023 at 4:11 p.m.
Quoting: brady_t12
I get Lindholm is a really good top 6 center but I don’t know how you can say he’s worth nearly double what Horvat returned. A first and a good prospect and a roster player for cap purposes would be the most I’d expect if I’m the Flames.

That's pretty much what's there, depending on how you value Bean & Peeke, who were supposedly 2 players CLB wanted to move this off-season and don't have future plans for. Apparently Bean has become more in favor again, but I want him back in Calgary, so if we have to add a 3rd/Kuznestov/Something?, no problem

1st + Sillinger/Raty/Krebs + Beauvillier/Tuch/Bean+Peeke (I did omit the 2nd going to VGK and 3rd going back to BUF)

Lindholm <= Eichel > Horvat. Sillinger, Raty & Krebs aren't/weren't really rocking it at the time and neither was Tuch or Beauvillier, so don't think of Tuch as the super valuable player he has now become

Could argue CLB's Pick will be much better than NYI's 17th Overall or VGK's 16th Overall, so put Top-12 Protected Condition on it or whatever

Quoting: brady_t12
Sillinger is better than Raty, Tuch is far better than Beauvillier or Bean and Peeke (granted we didn’t know he was THIS much better at the time of the Eichel trade). I personally wouldn’t use the Eichel trade as a comparable, but Horvat is much closer. Given Columbus is not a playoff team this year most likely, I don’t see how you’d be able to get their first and Sillinger for one year of Lindholm, especially when they really don’t need another top 6 center. Especially one in his late 20s. I’m not even looking at this from the caps POV, I don’t know that there would be a fit with the caps honestly given how much it’s going to cost to extend him.

Refer to the above, but is Sillinger really any better than Raty or Krebs!? Explain how/why. Tuch is far better NOW, not then, which is what we're comparing

Does Horvat have a right shot!? Is he as good defensively as Lindholm!? Lindholm has proven he can produce just as much as Horvat and Eichel, is much better defensively and doesn't have an injury history. Granted, Lindholm isn't the play driver Eichel or as Young as Eichel is

Obviously CLB doesn't do this without an extension in place on Lindholm, my bad, I always figure that's a given. but I should have spelled that out and CLB absolutely needs a 1C and Mentor for Fantilli, more importantly, lil Johnny and Laine need him too
Nov. 12, 2023 at 4:04 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
These are long explanations for Flames Fans who like to read, please don't respond to this particular post, just make a clean/fresh reply with your comment below:

-So here's what's happening, we're wiping out any cancer = remnants of the old core who are unhappy or disgruntled by the Huberdough & Kadri Signings, having had Sutter as their Coach and The Flames lack of success since in favour of New/Younger Blood

1. Lindholm's better than Horvat and just as good, yet much cheaper than Eichel (his herniated disk, questionable future and huge Cap Hit were gambles and reduced his trade value at the time he was traded), so his Trade Value is somewhere between the two
2. Hanifin's Trade comparable is Hampus Lingholm
3. Tanev's Trade Value is Chiarot or Savard when he was Trade to TBL.  The interest and demand for him is huge, thus there'll be a bidding war and with retention, he easily garners more than a 1st +3rd.  Also, take out the 3rd going to Calgary because whether it's Jarnkrok or Domi coming back, they're worth a 3rd each by themselves
4. I can't imagine Grier or SJ Fans saying no to this, but I'm ridding us of Milstein rep'd Vladar for Kahkonen & Sharangovich for Duclair and moving on from RFA Dube for RFA Kunin
5. I'm moving on from Markstrom hoping Treliving still values him highly, while at the same time dumping Milstein rep'd Nikoleyev.  I don't want Klingberg, but if it helps us get out of Markstrom's contract, great!
6. I'm taking advantage of EDM's need for a Quality Goalie on the Cheap who should excel with a change of scenery and buying low on the struggling Calgary Born Holloway.  Alternative, we could charge a 1st RD Pick instead.  Goalies are usually only worth a 2nd/3rd, but with retention and given this is an inter-division Trade that helps our #1 Rival, we force them to over pay
7. If it makes sense to move on from our Captain, Backlund's best Trade comparables are Mikael Granlund/2nd, Haula/Zacha and L.Eller/2nd.  With Term, I believe he's worth Pending UFA Teravainen who seems to have slipped in CAR the last couple seasons and could probably use a change of scenery.  Yes, he has 9 Goals this season, but whatever he's not back to being a 1.00PPG Player and we could lose him for nothing via Free Agency


How many times do I have to explain how complete not comparable Eichel and Lindholm are. Horvat price is the price, give or take a pick.

Hanafin's best comp is Orlov.
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