Trade idea with the Jets

Created by: Karimizo
Initial Creation Date: Aug 30, 2018
Published: Aug 30, 2018 at 6:44
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Legend
Lefthanded
Original Team
Righthanded
Position
No Move/Trade Clause
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
Edmonton Oilers
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Team Explanation
Winnipeg gives their best prospect to go for what matters the most : winning the cup. Best time to do this kind of deal before cap space is non-existent after Laine and Connor contracts kick in next year.

Montreal get a solid piece for the rebuild. Plus, Vesalainen is Finnish and likely to match with Kotkaniemi.

What do you guys think?
Trades
MTL
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
  3. 2019 4th round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
Conditional 2nd round pick : If Pacioretty re-signs with the Jets OR if the Jets wins the Stanley Cup in 2018-19, the pick becomes a 2020 1st round.
WPG
  1. Pacioretty, Max
  2. Byron, Paul
Additional Details:
Pacioretty adds even more scoring depth on this overpowered offensive team while Byron is a super fast skater and very effective PK player.
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Max Pacioretty: $450,000 (10%)
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
CGY
WPG
CHI
EDM
MTL
WPG
2020
MTL
MTL
WPG
MTL
MTL
WPG
MTL
MTL
MTL
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$57,639,165$0$2,032,500$21,860,835
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 5
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 3
Lehkonen, Artturi
$839,166
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 3
Scherbak, Nikita
$863,333
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Hudon, Charles
$650,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Plekanec, Tomas
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 1
Armia, Joel
$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 1
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Vesalainen, Kristian
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 4
De La Rose, Jacob
$900,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 2
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
Alzner, Karl
$4,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
Juulsen, Noah
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
Niemi, Antti
$950,000
G
UFA - 1
Reilly, Mike
$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
Schlemko, David
$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 2
Ouellet, Xavier
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1
Benn, Jordie
$1,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4

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Aug 30, 2018 at 8:40
#1
Joined: Jun 2015
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Jets pass, they need to be able to retain their roster forward depth and Vesalainen is key to that on his ELC for next year. They wont move their best prospects for a pair of 30 year old rentals bc they have no way of keeping them with all the contracts they have to sign.

The fit isnt there bw the team
Aug 30, 2018 at 9:32
#2
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 121
Likes: 132
Quoting: coga16
Jets pass, they need to be able to retain their roster forward depth and Vesalainen is key to that on his ELC for next year. They wont move their best prospects for a pair of 30 year old rentals bc they have no way of keeping them with all the contracts they have to sign.

The fit isnt there bw the team


I understand they would rather keep their top prospect but I think it is the price to pay to remain competitive. Next year it's all or nothing for the Jets, Wheeler needs to be re-sign, Laine and Connor contracts kick in. Obviously Patches and Byron would probably not re-sign with the Jets, but these guys could be a difference maker in playoffs.
As of right now, Jets are not as good as last year due to losing Stastny and I feel like a Patches+Byron duo would make the team even better than last year.
As a Jets fan, I think I do this deal and take a real good shot at the cup, without sacrificing too much, as Vesalainen isn't NHL ready anyway. The team will remain very good offensively and they still keep their 2019 1st round pick no matter what to ensure a certain depth.
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Aug 30, 2018 at 9:45
#3
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 9,485
Likes: 3,015
Quoting: Karimizo
I understand they would rather keep their top prospect but I think it is the price to pay to remain competitive. Next year it's all or nothing for the Jets, Wheeler needs to be re-sign, Laine and Connor contracts kick in. Obviously Patches and Byron would probably not re-sign with the Jets, but these guys could be a difference maker in playoffs.
As of right now, Jets are not as good as last year due to losing Stastny and I feel like a Patches+Byron duo would make the team even better than last year.
As a Jets fan, I think I do this deal and take a real good shot at the cup, without sacrificing too much, as Vesalainen isn't NHL ready anyway. The team will remain very good offensively and they still keep their 2019 1st round pick no matter what to ensure a certain depth.


That makes no sense, so they move the high upside forward making 925k a season for 3 more years bc they cant stay competitive? Thats how you stay competitive, you use your top prospects ELC years to their full potential.
Moving guys like Vesalainen who are cheap and cost controlled for a while is how you fall out of being competitive. Bc you start to slap together your roster with cheap cast offs,

Pacioretty wouldn't crack their top 6, so why would you move Vesalainen for older guys to be 3rd and 4th line players when you can just keep your own guys and probably the same amount of offence from them in those roles?
Aug 30, 2018 at 10:25
#4
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 121
Likes: 132
Quoting: coga16
That makes no sense, so they move the high upside forward making 925k a season for 3 more years bc they cant stay competitive? Thats how you stay competitive, you use your top prospects ELC years to their full potential.
Moving guys like Vesalainen who are cheap and cost controlled for a while is how you fall out of being competitive. Bc you start to slap together your roster with cheap cast offs,

Pacioretty wouldn't crack their top 6, so why would you move Vesalainen for older guys to be 3rd and 4th line players when you can just keep your own guys and probably the same amount of offence from them in those roles?

Why do you keep using the argument of ''old players''. Jesus, these guys are 29 years old and are traded for a playoff run, I aint saying to sign both 8years deal afterwards lol? And If you think it doesn't make sens, well look at last year TDL, Boston and Tampa did similar moves. They don't depend on their prospect pool as much as other teams and use that to increase their playoff odds. You don't have to agree to these to recognize them.

And having Pacioretty on your third line just shows how good the Jets offense would be. Yeah the Jets have a solid top 6, but it's not all about the top 6, 3rd line can have a huge impact in a series.

Finally, you have to analyze the Jets situation and realize they have a big opportunity to go all-in. The year after is too late, as they wont have the cap space.
Anyway, this is a fantasy website and this is just an idea of Jets using that opportunity. :)
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Aug 31, 2018 at 12:13
#5
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Joined: Jul 2015
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Of all the teams that don't need Patches is the Jets...that have Ehlers and Connor at LW. Would the Jets would like to do is trade some cap to Montreal...especially for next year. Take Little or Perrault for free.
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