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Kane to Calgary v2

Created by: Shootica
Team: 2017-18 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2017
Published: Dec. 15, 2017
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I offered a similar trade with different draft picks a couple weeks ago and the consensus was that it was a steal for Calgary. Hopefully this is better value.

I was also considering Kane for Andersson, Jon Gillies, and maybe a later pick. I thought Gillies may be expendable with Rittich playing well enough and Parsons looming in the distance, but I'm not sure if Flames fans want to lose him right now.

Thoughts?
Trades
BUF
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. 2019 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Kane, Evander ($2,125,000 retained)
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (BUF)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$75,000,000$58,028,691$0$6,987,500$16,971,309
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW
UFA - 1
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 6
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 6
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
UFA - 1
$625,000$625,000
LW
UFA - 1
$1,475,000$1,475,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$5,142,857$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 2
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 15, 2017 at 12:13 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 15, 2017 at 12:18 p.m.
Yes that's fair. Honestly if it's a sign and trade then Gillies can be included. Personally I worry Treliving will pay a high price for Kane then see him walk this offseason. I wouldn't call it a steal for CGY, Andersson is very good and IMO should be in the NHL right now, they just don't want to rush him
Dec. 15, 2017 at 12:54 p.m.
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Thats a good return. Unfortunately calgary would then not have first or second round picks for 2 straight years i believe, that makes me think they turn it down because of that.
Dec. 15, 2017 at 1:13 p.m.
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That really doesnt help the Sabres though, sure the D gets better a little but now they have 0 offense going into the next season with the only top LW prospect in the pros looking like hes a few years off. Theyre also stuck with a plethora of mediocre LHD
Dec. 15, 2017 at 1:14 p.m.
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The return is a tad weak, may want another small asset or remove the 3rd rounder
Dec. 15, 2017 at 1:28 p.m.
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Quoting: sabres89
Thats a good return. Unfortunately calgary would then not have first or second round picks for 2 straight years i believe, that makes me think they turn it down because of that.


I agree with this. I just don't understand why Calgary would think they have such a good chance to win that they'd seriously hinder their future further by moving another top pick. I don't believe that they are a top 5 playoff team with or without Kane, so being impatient and not thinking about the future is foolish.
Dec. 15, 2017 at 2:08 p.m.
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Thanks for the responses guys, I appreciate it!

Quoting: sabres89
Thats a good return. Unfortunately calgary would then not have first or second round picks for 2 straight years i believe, that makes me think they turn it down because of that.

Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
I agree with this. I just don't understand why Calgary would think they have such a good chance to win that they'd seriously hinder their future further by moving another top pick. I don't believe that they are a top 5 playoff team with or without Kane, so being impatient and not thinking about the future is foolish.


Yea, this was my only reservation with a Calgary deal. It's part of the reason I was musing about swapping the first with Gillies. I could completely understand if the Flames put a hard line on keeping that pick.

Quoting: thewookie1
The return is a tad weak, may want another small asset or remove the 3rd rounder


It's in the ballpark at least, which is what I was going for. I was assuming that Kane would return the classic 1st rounder + B prospect, but I think Andersson is better than the prospects usually put in these deals so I threw the third rounder in. I doubt that would be the make it or break it part of the trade.

Quoting: Shibbal18
That really doesnt help the Sabres though, sure the D gets better a little but now they have 0 offense going into the next season with the only top LW prospect in the pros looking like hes a few years off. Theyre also stuck with a plethora of mediocre LHD


We do need scoring help, but I think defense is the bigger organizational need. Outside of Guhle, I'm not sure we have anyone that projects to be an NHL player. Andersson is a good player than should be able to step into the lineup next season with Guhle and solidify our back end. And we can always use that first round pick to either draft scoring talent or trade for someone NHL ready.

Quoting: JQuick32
Yes that's fair. Honestly if it's a sign and trade then Gillies can be included. Personally I worry Treliving will pay a high price for Kane then see him walk this offseason. I wouldn't call it a steal for CGY, Andersson is very good and IMO should be in the NHL right now, they just don't want to rush him


Thanks, I agree about Andersson. I think with Kane, you have to assume he's a rental at this point. He's earned the right to test free agency.

Out of curiosity, do you value Gillies higher or lower than that first round pick?
Dec. 15, 2017 at 7:46 p.m.
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Thanks for the responses guys, I appreciate it!

Quoting: sabres89
Thats a good return. Unfortunately calgary would then not have first or second round picks for 2 straight years i believe, that makes me think they turn it down because of that.

Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
I agree with this. I just don't understand why Calgary would think they have such a good chance to win that they'd seriously hinder their future further by moving another top pick. I don't believe that they are a top 5 playoff team with or without Kane, so being impatient and not thinking about the future is foolish.


Yea, this was my only reservation with a Calgary deal. It's part of the reason I was musing about swapping the first with Gillies. I could completely understand if the Flames put a hard line on keeping that pick.

Quoting: thewookie1
The return is a tad weak, may want another small asset or remove the 3rd rounder


It's in the ballpark at least, which is what I was going for. I was assuming that Kane would return the classic 1st rounder + B prospect, but I think Andersson is better than the prospects usually put in these deals so I threw the third rounder in. I doubt that would be the make it or break it part of the trade.

Quoting: Shibbal18
That really doesnt help the Sabres though, sure the D gets better a little but now they have 0 offense going into the next season with the only top LW prospect in the pros looking like hes a few years off. Theyre also stuck with a plethora of mediocre LHD


We do need scoring help, but I think defense is the bigger organizational need. Outside of Guhle, I'm not sure we have anyone that projects to be an NHL player. Andersson is a good player than should be able to step into the lineup next season with Guhle and solidify our back end. And we can always use that first round pick to either draft scoring talent or trade for someone NHL ready.

Quoting: JQuick32
Yes that's fair. Honestly if it's a sign and trade then Gillies can be included. Personally I worry Treliving will pay a high price for Kane then see him walk this offseason. I wouldn't call it a steal for CGY, Andersson is very good and IMO should be in the NHL right now, they just don't want to rush him


Thanks, I agree about Andersson. I think with Kane, you have to assume he's a rental at this point. He's earned the right to test free agency.

Out of curiosity, do you value Gillies higher or lower than that first round pick?


1st round picks have a ton of value these days, but Gillies is looking more and more like an NHL goalie. Problem is Rittich has played very well since his callup and Parsons is likely the future in net. Gillies could be expendable. If I were BUF I would rather have a 1st than Gillies, but from a CGY standpoint I'd rather give up Andersson and Gillies than a 1st rounder if that makes sense.
 
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