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Created by: Darkale
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2018
Published: Jan. 6, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
3$3,250,000
2$1,250,000
2$1,050,000
2$1,050,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
2$1,750,000
7$11,000,000
Hugues, Quinton
3$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (STL)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (STL)
STL
    Plekanek at deadline
    2.
    MTL
      round 2 2018 draft
      NYI
      1. Benn, Jordie
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      Deadline
      3.
      MTL
        round 4 2018 draft
        4.
        MTL
          Right to Anthony Duclair
          ARI
          1. De La Rose, Jacob
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          2017 round 5 pick
          5.
          MTL
            2017 conditional round 1 pick (round 2 if N-J doesn't pass the first playoff round)
            DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
            2019
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            2020
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            2021
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            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
            23$78,000,000$73,762,975$0$782,500$4,237,025
            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $4,050,000$4,050,000
            LW
            UFA - 1
            $11,000,000$11,000,000
            C, LW
            UFA - 7
            $3,750,000$3,750,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 3
            $5,500,000$5,500,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 5
            $4,900,000$4,900,000
            LW, C, RW
            UFA - 2
            $839,166$839,166
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,250,000$3,250,000
            C
            UFA - 3
            $1,250,000$1,250,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $650,000$650,000
            C, LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $650,000$650,000
            C
            UFA - 1
            $1,166,667$1,166,667
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $1,000,000$1,000,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 2
            $1,050,000$1,050,000
            RW, C
            UFA - 1
            $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            Hugues, Quinton
            $950,000$950,000
            $7,857,143$7,857,143
            RD
            UFA - 8
            $10,500,000$10,500,000
            G
            NMC
            UFA - 8
            $4,625,000$4,625,000
            LD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 4
            $5,500,000$5,500,000
            RD
            M-NTC, NMC
            UFA - 3
            $748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            LD/RD
            UFA - 2
            $1,750,000$1,750,000
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $1,050,000$1,050,000
            G
            UFA - 3
            $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
            RD
            UFA - 2

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            Jan. 6, 2018 at 7:58 p.m.
            #1
            Lafreniere
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            Lol a 1st for Shaw.

            Think for once!
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 8:01 p.m.
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            I think he worth a second. And if New-Jersey pass that first playoff round we all gonna be shock.
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 8:06 p.m.
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            Quoting: ShafferPens
            Lol a 1st for Shaw.

            Think for once!


            In 2017 ?
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 8:11 p.m.
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            Quoting: Darkale
            I think he worth a second. And if New-Jersey pass that first playoff round we all gonna be shock.


            I wouldn’t trade a 7th for that contract, and you think he’ll get a 2nd?? Yeah no.
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 8:13 p.m.
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            laugh Shaw with that contract no way are you getting a conditional 1st ound pick you'd be lucky to get a 6th or 7th for him right now.
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 8:52 p.m.
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            Quoting: wojme
            In 2017 ?


            I'd love me some Nico Hischier!
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 9:57 p.m.
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            overpaying jerabek
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 10:07 p.m.
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            Quoting: HABS19
            overpaying jerabek


            The way he's improving game on game, Habs might be lucky to get him for that price.
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            Jan. 6, 2018 at 10:11 p.m.
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            Quoting: Larkinisking
            laugh Shaw with that contract no way are you getting a conditional 1st ound pick you'd be lucky to get a 6th or 7th for him right now.


            You're right that he's probably not worth a 1st, but there's not a team in the NHL that wouldn't try to figure out a way to get Shaw into the lineup. And with the cap heading to $80M, his contract isn't all the hefty anymore.
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 10:30 p.m.
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            Quoting: Truebeliever
            The way he's improving game on game, Habs might be lucky to get him for that price.


            hes played 15 NHL games with no points. with Mete coming back and Juulsen likely making the team next year theres no room for him in the top 6. as a 7th defenseman 1.7 M is too much
            Jan. 6, 2018 at 10:58 p.m.
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            Quoting: HABS19
            hes played 15 NHL games with no points. with Mete coming back and Juulsen likely making the team next year theres no room for him in the top 6. as a 7th defenseman 1.7 M is too much


            Point may or may not come. The whole team isn't scoring. If you watch Jerabek, you'll see that he's getting a lot more ice time against tougher opponents. The Habs D is starting to get its **** together. Now if only the forwards would start scoring.

            Don't read too much into Mete's return. They need him back because Weber is out for at least another month, likely the season. If Weber were healthy, the calculus on Mete might be different. Once he's back, don't be surprised if Mete gets sent back to junior to have a little fun and maybe win the MemCup.
            Jan. 7, 2018 at 12:54 a.m.
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            About Shaw, I can understand why a team like the Pens will never pay that price. But in Newark it's just another world. They receive a playoff player (you can't say that the guy is not a team player) for a 2 round pick.... Come on...
            Jan. 7, 2018 at 1:04 a.m.
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            The guy can play everywere foward, he's 27, can fight if needed, he's not a bad player, overpay but not a cap dump
            Jan. 7, 2018 at 3:56 a.m.
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            Quoting: Darkale
            The guy can play everywere foward, he's 27, can fight if needed, he's not a bad player, overpay but not a cap dump


            Shaw can fetch that type of return because he is the kind of dawg you need to win a cup . All GM know his true value . Great work as ususal Darkale ! i would sell byron because i like the return he could get . Also Duclair and Drouin should be reunite .
            Jan. 7, 2018 at 4:00 a.m.
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            Quoting: ShafferPens
            I wouldn’t trade a 7th for that contract, and you think he’ll get a 2nd?? Yeah no.


            What a ridiculous and unvaluable opinion . You don't like Shawszy ? He can't ear you , because he is got is two stanley cup rings plug in the ears .. Have a good day .. on internet .
            Jan. 7, 2018 at 8:55 a.m.
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            What a ridiculous and unvaluable opinion . You don't like Shawszy ? He can't ear you , because he is got is two stanley cup rings plug in the ears .. Have a good day .. on internet .

            3.9m for him for FIVE YEARS. Yeah no thanks. Am I not allowed to not want a player? laugh
            Jan. 7, 2018 at 4:36 p.m.
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            Quoting: ShafferPens
            3.9m for him for FIVE YEARS. Yeah no thanks. Am I not allowed to not want a player? laugh


            you think is value is a 7th rounder while we got a 4th for Montoya ... Shaw is having a great season , other elements in the team don't . Get lost .
            Jan. 7, 2018 at 4:40 p.m.
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            you think is value is a 7th rounder while we got a 4th for Montoya ... Shaw is having a great season , other elements in the team don't . Get lost .

            Get lost because I don’t want a player who would play 4th line on my team and makes a lot of money? Okay I will get lost laugh
            Jan. 9, 2018 at 6:48 p.m.
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            Quoting: ShafferPens
            Get lost because I don’t want a player who would play 4th line on my team and makes a lot of money? Okay I will get lost laugh


            Because your evaluation is RIDICULOUS . Shaw have fetch 2 2nd in is last trade . A 7th ? Your comment are a joke . You don'T want him ? fine . Dont ask price tag is about Daniel Sprong or even more ..
            Jan. 9, 2018 at 7:00 p.m.
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            Because your evaluation is RIDICULOUS . Shaw have fetch 2 2nd in is last trade . A 7th ? Your comment are a joke . You don'T want him ? fine . Dont ask price tag is about Daniel Sprong or even more ..

            Shaw didn’t have a terrible contract last trade. And by that sentence, which I don’t understand, is if Sprong is the asking price you actually need to ******* reevaluate the way you think about hockey laugh
            Jan. 9, 2018 at 10:59 p.m.
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            Quoting: ShafferPens
            Shaw didn’t have a terrible contract last trade. And by that sentence, which I don’t understand, is if Sprong is the asking price you actually need to ******* reevaluate the way you think about hockey laugh


            bye.
            Jan. 10, 2018 at 1:22 a.m.
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            Quoting: ShafferPens
            I wouldn’t trade a 7th for that contract, and you think he’ll get a 2nd?? Yeah no.


            Quoting: Larkinisking
            laugh Shaw with that contract no way are you getting a conditional 1st ound pick you'd be lucky to get a 6th or 7th for him right now.


            You guys are almost are too much to take sometimes, you know that?........ Look we all know Shaw isn't worth a 1st. But saying a 6th or 7th rounder?? Stop making bogus claims when you don't actually watch the player.

            Repeat after me, people who don't watch Habs games:

            Shaw is not a cap dump. Matt Moulson is a cap dump. Learn the difference.
            Shaw is having a good year. Ask any MTL fan. He is putting up decent numbers on a team that can't score! People are only trading him because we need to rebuild.
            Shaw is 26 years old. Not 30. Not 35. TWENTY SIX. He is in his prime years. Has two cups to his name where he played a prominent role in winning those cups.
            WHO CARES IF HE HAS 5 YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT?

            You guys need to stop exaggerating. Yes I know the trade in question is way too much (and not even the right year lol) but you over exaggerating his low value is just as bad if not worse than OP's over valuation. Take the high road and point out WHY he's worth less and what it would take.

            No one cares what you'd give for him. You're not real GM's and your opinions have literally no value in the real world. So instead of mocking and making terrible low ball offers that you'd give, perhaps give a reasonable response back or at least justify WHY he's worth as low as you claim he'd be worth. Maybe using comparables and facts and not just pulling trade value out your a**.
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            Jan. 10, 2018 at 3:06 a.m.
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            Quoting: F50marco
            You guys are almost are too much to take sometimes, you know that?........ Look we all know Shaw isn't worth a 1st. But saying a 6th or 7th rounder?? Stop making bogus claims when you don't actually watch the player.

            Repeat after me, people who don't watch Habs games:

            Shaw is not a cap dump. Matt Moulson is a cap dump. Learn the difference.
            Shaw is having a good year. Ask any MTL fan. He is putting up decent numbers on a team that can't score! People are only trading him because we need to rebuild.
            Shaw is 26 years old. Not 30. Not 35. TWENTY SIX. He is in his prime years. Has two cups to his name where he played a prominent role in winning those cups.
            WHO CARES IF HE HAS 5 YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT?

            You guys need to stop exaggerating. Yes I know the trade in question is way too much (and not even the right year lol) but you over exaggerating his low value is just as bad if not worse than OP's over valuation. Take the high road and point out WHY he's worth less and what it would take.

            No one cares what you'd give for him. You're not real GM's and your opinions have literally no value in the real world. So instead of mocking and making terrible low ball offers that you'd give, perhaps give a reasonable response back or at least justify WHY he's worth as low as you claim he'd be worth. Maybe using comparables and facts and not just pulling trade value out your a**.


            Exactly.
            Jan. 10, 2018 at 4:40 a.m.
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            Edited Jan. 10, 2018 at 5:11 a.m.
            Quoting: ShafferPens
            3.9m for him for FIVE YEARS. Yeah no thanks. Am I not allowed to not want a player? laugh


            You certainly are allowed to say that you don't want to trade for that player, but the way to do that is say something more respectful than "I wouldn’t trade a 7th for that contract." You can say "No thanks, what you're asking is too steep for a third-line grinder." Or, "he's a good player, but $3.9M is more than I think he's worth. If you want to knock off $1.5M, maybe there's room for a deal...." It's even fine to say "his concussion profile is not something I'd be willing to take a risk on." But to say dumb crap like "I wouldn’t trade a 7th for that contract" just indicated that there's really not much point in trying to have a meaningful interaction to the point where we can try to get to an agreement.

            I think psychologists should study this board because people clearly care about the topic and yet we get to an agreement -- what -- maybe 5% of the time. A lot of that is because people try to trade 9 players a day, but it's also the blind tribalism that immediately creates the sense that someone must be great because they wear "my" sweater and the other guy must suck because he doesn't. It's fascinating, but it's also a shame. We'd never talk this way in a bar to one another. We can agree to disagree without constantly raising the ante.

            Last year, Shaw had a terrible year and was likely playing through a concussion. This year, no one watching Montreal questions the two 2nd rounders given up for him. No one. And with an $80M cap spread over 23 player, that's almost $4M per player average. Shaw is at very least "average" but most who watch him will tell you he does a lot more on the ice than most average players.
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            Jan. 10, 2018 at 6:53 a.m.
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            Quoting: Truebeliever
            You certainly are allowed to say that you don't want to trade for that player, but the way to do that is say something more respectful than "I wouldn’t trade a 7th for that contract." You can say "No thanks, what you're asking is too steep for a third-line grinder." Or, "he's a good player, but $3.9M is more than I think he's worth. If you want to knock off $1.5M, maybe there's room for a deal...." It's even fine to say "his concussion profile is not something I'd be willing to take a risk on." But to say dumb crap like "I wouldn’t trade a 7th for that contract" just indicated that there's really not much point in trying to have a meaningful interaction to the point where we can try to get to an agreement.

            I think psychologists should study this board because people clearly care about the topic and yet we get to an agreement -- what -- maybe 5% of the time. A lot of that is because people try to trade 9 players a day, but it's also the blind tribalism that immediately creates the sense that someone must be great because they wear "my" sweater and the other guy must suck because he doesn't. It's fascinating, but it's also a shame. We'd never talk this way in a bar to one another. We can agree to disagree without constantly raising the ante.

            Last year, Shaw had a terrible year and was likely playing through a concussion. This year, no one watching Montreal questions the two 2nd rounders given up for him. No one. And with an $80M cap spread over 23 player, that's almost $4M per player average. Shaw is at very least "average" but most who watch him will tell you he does a lot more on the ice than most average players.


            Quoting: a1111
            Exactly.


            Quoting: F50marco
            You guys are almost are too much to take sometimes, you know that?........ Look we all know Shaw isn't worth a 1st. But saying a 6th or 7th rounder?? Stop making bogus claims when you don't actually watch the player.

            Repeat after me, people who don't watch Habs games:

            Shaw is not a cap dump. Matt Moulson is a cap dump. Learn the difference.
            Shaw is having a good year. Ask any MTL fan. He is putting up decent numbers on a team that can't score! People are only trading him because we need to rebuild.
            Shaw is 26 years old. Not 30. Not 35. TWENTY SIX. He is in his prime years. Has two cups to his name where he played a prominent role in winning those cups.
            WHO CARES IF HE HAS 5 YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT?

            You guys need to stop exaggerating. Yes I know the trade in question is way too much (and not even the right year lol) but you over exaggerating his low value is just as bad if not worse than OP's over valuation. Take the high road and point out WHY he's worth less and what it would take.

            No one cares what you'd give for him. You're not real GM's and your opinions have literally no value in the real world. So instead of mocking and making terrible low ball offers that you'd give, perhaps give a reasonable response back or at least justify WHY he's worth as low as you claim he'd be worth. Maybe using comparables and facts and not just pulling trade value out your a**.


            19 points is not enough for a guy making that kind of money. The OP wanted a 1st for him! I said no way, I wouldn’t take that CONTRACT for a 7th. Anyways agree to disagree.
             
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