we dont need tippet

this is like PIT trading for a starting goalie it doesnt make sense

suzuki makes more sense

Way too much for patches.

i think its a non point as nothing there we want

there is no 2018 1st , a Center NHL ready player just a WHL short player who might bust looking at his stats vs intentional competition all i keep think is great another Nattinen long term project
even their scouting reports sound the same with FLA's guy being a speedy guy and Nattinen being a Faceoff Specialist but both centers are built to decline despite being point per game under 20 players making the jump to the NHL might take them a decade as in Nattinens case as he's only now getting looks from MTL at age 27 as he's become a complete 2 way player and reliable 2nd center for his home country regularly .

Tippett is a RW.

in terms of legit RW prospects, other than Scherbak and Bitten Habs have nothing....MTL's organizational depth at that position is

Gallagher
Shaw
Scherbak
Logan Shaw (useless)
Bitten
Baun (useless)
Gregoire (nothing)
Waked (nothing)

as you can see having someone like Tippett would be beneficial. The Habs prospects cupboard is bare, so it's in fact saying that we don't need Tippett that doesn't make sense. Habs can use all the prospects they can get their hands on.

Borgstrom is the only Center they have outside Bjugstad that would make this deal work IMO
he's the only one ready to jump to the NHL who could have an immediate impact and i just love Nick Bjugstad

Suzuki plays for VEG

Joni ikonen is likely to play RW if he makes the roster

this right here is why our last #1 center was Koivu

if MB does this trade i'll lead the angry mob to burn down Molson Breweries because it the epitome of what is Wrong with MTL for 30 years now

the fact that our Center Prospect depth is Poehling should worry you
we have 2/4 NHL centers who are wingers that never played center before turning pro
once plekky goes we are KO'd down the middle worse then ARZ before Stepan .

if not for Wingers like Evans,Bitten and Pazetta jumping from wing to Center we'd have no one in the pipeline .

Nattinen thank god after 9 years has finally become a 2 way players who might be able to fill a 4th line C in the NHL as he's renowned for his faceoff skills
but thats it as Mccarron is a RW whoever tried making him Center in Junior screwed his career

hopefully they can get tavares

Would you care to explain why? same for @NateElder12 (since he liked your post). The way I see it FLA don't give up their best prospect (Borgstrom) and keep all their roster players.

Just trying to continue the conversation

at this point i hope so .

personally i'd rather target a guy like Granlund real cheap for 3rd C with Shaw
then take the savings and grab Statsny because Quebec loves the Statsny's and are less likely to bury them then JT

i want JT i just see what the fans did to Price's Wife in NOV and keep thinking of what Kypreo's said about players seeing this and remembering it
when they submit their no trade lists and offer sheets

Borgstrom isnt their best he's the one with expiring NCAA rights the one they are most likely to give up

thats like me saying Jake Evans is our best prospect
its not true even though he is really good he could go Butcher or Vesey on us and leave AUG.1st

That's true, he was on the wing at the World juniors. but he does play Center in the SHL. But I would agree that's where he'll most likely end up. My point however was that saying Habs couldn't use someone like Tippett makes no sense.

it only makes no sense if you dont realize Froese and Plekky are our only centers at the NHL level
Danault played Junior here and never played center , Shaw played RW in junior only developing Faceoff skills in CHI later at age 21 i believe if i recall right .
Byron sucks at faceoffs but Hudon our other winger who played LW for JGP in junior is taking the bulk draws .

we dont need tippet for the same reason ARZ didnt need Duclair
having a really good player on a team with no centers doesnt mean anything but a top 10 draft pick and no playoffs

if not for Wingers learning to be Secondary Faceoff Players we'd be DOA

whoa wait a sec, your claiming a lot of things now, but are you trying to say Danault isn't a Center?...

he's a Winger , always been a Winger who like Shaw can just take Faceoffs .
can he play center? sure

so can Drouin he did win a Memorial Cup Championship his first year Center in junior outscoring everyone including Mckinnon in the process
but does that mean he's a legit Center? if you ask the Media they say no but ironically chucky who didnt win a memorial cup at center and has only proven himself as C in 48 games over 2 seasons is considered a Center.



to be a Center you have to play a full season minimum and do so with positive possession metrics otherwise you aren't really a center
you are just doing your best until the Team sacks up and buys a piece of worth to fill the role so you can go back to playing wing .


now Plekky on the other hand is a 100% legit Center
Froese played his first season in TML as a center and is now on his 2nd stint

Danault has played roughly 85-90 games over 2 years and has been good but until he complete Minimum 1 full year as Center then like
Shaw he's just a Possession Winger and Leader who can step up and take Faceoffs .

i say this as a Huge Danault fan who had everyone **** talk him when i said 5 years ago we needed him in MTL for his Speed and Playmaking
because from LW he and Barbashev made Jaskin top 5 QMJHL scoring off deflections and screens from third line and i thought if he can do that for Jaskin
imagine what he can do in MTL.

but he's not proved himself yet anymore then Shaw did in either of his cup years (and no one considers shaw a primary Center )

its like Mccarron who was drafted a RW and never played center until about 3-3 1/2 months after being Drafted when Dale Hunter took it upon himself to Move Mccarron to Center.now we are stuck with a guy who's going into his 5th year in the montreal system and he's still not figured out how to do either position as a pro instead relying on his fists to keep him relevant.

sometimes you break a prospect by trying to force a square piece in a round hole

yeah understandable. I just don't see Patches holding much value to a budget team who relies on value contracts to remain competitive. Barkov, TRocheck, Dadonov, and Huberdeau are steal of contracts. Patches will be getting something north of $7M on the wrong side of 30 for most of it. It doesn't match up with their philosophy. I think you'd have a better chance getting a similar return from a different team not FLA. The value of the assets being sent to MTL is greater than the value going back to FLA who isn't a win now team. That's all really. Sorry i didnt elaborate i just didnt want to be redundant.

What on earth are you talking about?! Danault has played 178 NHL games with almost all of those being at Center. He was used a #4 C in CHI, he was a C in the AHL, and he was a C in junior Victoriaville Tigres.

where are you getting this stuff? I don't even know where to begin with everything you've been writing, and it's not even just on this thread.

yeah thats a lie outright i'm sorry

ok this is wrong. They own Borgstrom's rights until 2020. Plenty of time to lock him up and it wont be hard. He is also their best prospect with the highest ceiling so idk why you think him and evans are even comparable? He's way ahead of where Evans was at this time. Evans is a career 0.84 ppg player in the NCAA. Borgstrom is a 1.25 lol. Evans didnt start scoring a ppg pace until he was a junior. Borgstrom was over a ppg player as a freshman. Do I need to continue? lol.

the fact you are using NBA meme's instead of hockey makes me realize you aren't even a guy who is likely to attend a Junior game let alone know anything about the players on teams from years back .
how many games did you watch Danault play in junior?

i've literally lost count
he was always LW and PK/PP Center only
5v5 his ass was on 3rd pair LW with Gourde or Barbashev in later years as his Center

unlike you i'm a die hard QMJHL fan its why i can tell you not only how they played but who with

so FLA signed him then ?
because NCAA seniors rights all expire AUG 1st if they havent got a contract as per the CBA

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/nhl-doesn-t-have-an-ncaa-loophole-problem-it-s-just-business-as-usual