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Big EK trade with Philly

Created by: Sens4life
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 20, 2018
Published: Mar. 20, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zadina, Filip
3$900,000
3$8,000,000
1$1,000,000
3$2,750,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,750,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Konecny, Travis
  2. Provorov, Ivan
  3. 2019 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Burrows, Alexandre
  2. Karlsson, Erik
  3. 2019 3rd round pick (PIT)
  4. 2019 7th round pick (OTT)
  5. 2020 3rd round pick (OTT)
2.
OTT
  1. Parayko, Colton ($600,000 retained)
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. 2019 1st round pick (PHI)
  3. 2019 7th round pick (CGY)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
3.
OTT
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (CGY)
4.
OTT
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (EDM)
5.
OTT
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (CGY)
ARI
  1. Gáborík, Marián
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (STL)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
6.
OTT
  1. 2019 7th round pick (NSH)
7.
EDM
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Cody Ceci
Nick Paul
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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Logo of the CGY
Logo of the OTT
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
31$80,000,000$76,628,331$0$3,980,000$3,371,669

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Zadina, Filip
$900,000$900,000
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$710,000$710K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
$753,333$753,333
LW
RFA - 4
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C
UFA - 2
$742,500$742,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C
UFA - 1
$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$736,666$736,666 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
UFA - 8
$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 2
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RD
UFA - 4
$1,750,000$1,750,000
G
UFA - 2
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$761,666$761,666 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
G
UFA - 3
$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LD
UFA - 1
$755,000$755,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RD
UFA - 2
$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
UFA - 1

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Mar. 20, 2018 at 9:57 p.m.
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Massive hard pass.
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Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:05 p.m.
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Why? What else do you think it would take to have the best defenseman in the world? The point is you have to pay a hefty price.
Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:09 p.m.
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Why? What else do you think it would take to have the best defenseman in the world? The point is you have to pay a hefty price.


First off we don’t need him. Second, Provorov will be a top 5 D man in the league very soon. And we have ghost to do all the offensive stuff Karlsson does. I wouldn’t trade Provorov straight up for 1 year of Karlsson.
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Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:34 p.m.
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First off we don’t need him. Second, Provorov will be a top 5 D man in the league very soon. And we have ghost to do all the offensive stuff Karlsson does. I wouldn’t trade Provorov straight up for 1 year of Karlsson.


You're joking right?
Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Sens4life
You're joking right?


Ok maybe a little over exaggeration by DD however if you think in context I agree that I would not make this trade from the Flyers aspect. Obviously Karlsson is better than Provorov, the issue is you would have to give Karlsson 11-12 per year and to me Konecny is the second coming of Recchi
Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:55 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:02 p.m.
Quoting: Sens4life
You're joking right?


No, no I am not. We have Provorov for the next decade, once he is re-signed,at a much cheaper price than Karlsson. TK will be a first line player for a decade as well. This would be the exact opposite of what Hextall wants to do with the Flyers. If the GM was still Holmgren then ya he would make some stupid trade like this.
Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:58 p.m.
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Why would Philly need Karlsson with all their upcoming young dmen?
Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:00 p.m.
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Why would Philly need Karlsson with all their upcoming young dmen?

They don't, it would be a wonderfully luxury
Mar. 21, 2018 at 12:11 a.m.
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1 year of Karlsson is NOT worth all of that
Mar. 21, 2018 at 12:22 a.m.
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Karlsson is great but I easily decline this. Provy and TK have already shown great things and they're both only 21.
Mar. 21, 2018 at 8:57 a.m.
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You guys should’ve traded him at the deadline.
Mar. 21, 2018 at 11:01 a.m.
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You're not getting Parayko for that offer and try more like 7 years $56 million for John Carlson and no way he's signing with Ottawa.
Mar. 23, 2018 at 11:15 a.m.
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Dont put Burrows in a trade
Mar. 23, 2018 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
First off we don’t need him. Second, Provorov will be a top 5 D man in the league very soon. And we have ghost to do all the offensive stuff Karlsson does. I wouldn’t trade Provorov straight up for 1 year of Karlsson.

You really think a team is going to trade for a 1 year of Karlsson? IF he is really traded, it will be with a 8 years extension in place...

Quoting: Bdinella
Ok maybe a little over exaggeration by DD however if you think in context I agree that I would not make this trade from the Flyers aspect. Obviously Karlsson is better than Provorov, the issue is you would have to give Karlsson 11-12 per year and to me Konecny is the second coming of Recchi

You realize Recchi has scored 1533 pts in the NHL?

Quoting: mhockey91
1 year of Karlsson is NOT worth all of that

With all the experience we have (or should have) as hockey fans, we still read things like this.

How often does that happens? When a team acquires a star (or even a good player like Turris) without an extension in place, or an upcoming one.

Quoting: ConnorMcSchulenberg
You guys should’ve traded him at the deadline.

Why? His value will be higher after July 1st.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 1:00 a.m.
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You really think a team is going to trade for a 1 year of Karlsson? IF he is really traded, it will be with a 8 years extension in place...


You realize Recchi has scored 1533 pts in the NHL?


With all the experience we have (or should have) as hockey fans, we still read things like this.

How often does that happens? When a team acquires a star (or even a good player like Turris) without an extension in place, or an upcoming one.


Why? His value will be higher after July 1st.

No his value will be less but there will be more teams at the table. Two playoffs runs with Karlsson is more valuable than one believe it or not. Ottawa’s taking a gamble that more teams=a bigger offer but imo Vegas was the perfect trading partner to start of with.
Mar. 24, 2018 at 11:36 a.m.
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No his value will be less but there will be more teams at the table. Two playoffs runs with Karlsson is more valuable than one believe it or not. Ottawa’s taking a gamble that more teams=a bigger offer but imo Vegas was the perfect trading partner to start of with.


lol but what about (potentially) 9 playoff runs?

A team trading for a big star will want to know if they're trading for someone with an extension in place. Teams rarely give up a huge package for a "rental", and Dorion is not going to trade Karlsson without getting a king's ransom.

I thought that would be a given for hockey fans

Vegas (despite offering a reportedly big package) didn't mean that requirement so it didn't work
 
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