Ridiculous concept having tavares sign for 1 year and then for 8x8.5. he will get 12+

matthews will get more than mcdavid.

dreaming

leaf fans .... lol

You've really squeezed so many current Leafs just to sign Nash and Tavares....unlikely.

Some are just absolutely delusional.

I am a Leafs fan.

And although some of my ideas are seen as out there; they are nothing like this.

On what planet does Matthews only get $8 million? Did he miss a year due to a concussion? Only way his contract sin't 8 figures........

12+ is hard for most team's to swallow let alone a legitimate contender and his hometown, like Toronto.

The Matthews will get more than McDavid argument literally has no merit. Last year? McDavid - 100 points. Matthews? 69. This year? Same thing.

At 3.5M, Nash is practically irrelevant. Everyone wants to talk Tavares and/or Matthews at north of 10M. This is designed to show everyone that they are the ones who are in fact delusional.

Thats why Tavares won't go to Toronto. Hes not leaving 30 million on the table. I bet Detroit would pay that.

Yes, Matthews will get more. The cap will go up and 2 years of contracts adjusting to mcdavid, eichel, draistal etc. will push his figure up. If you think you get him at 8.5 you are crazy and you will see him offer sheeted

the summer of 2019 is going to really suck for you.

I'm not claiming Toronto can pay him the most. He took 5.5 in long island which suggests he isn't trying to max anything. Team's can pay him more but the guy wants to win. No team offers him a better shot than us.

How is it working out in chitown now that the extensions have kicked in?
Boston has a half decent salary structure and some of the best players in the world.

You guys think Chiarelli runs every team in the league?

Au contraire. Remember when Yzerman had to sign Stamkos, Hedman, and Kucherov?

if you think matthews is taking a 3 year bridge deal like kucherov, you are going to cry all summer long.

again, contracts for mcdavid, eichel etc. have changed the game. Ontario isn't exactly florida from a tax perspective either.

that contract was 6 years ago and was a standard "big" deal out as an RFA. similiar to what toews and kane took in 2010 too.

Toews signed for 6.3M two years before Tavares and Stamkos signed for 7.5M the year before JT signed his 5.5M per deal.

Looks like a pretty big discount to me.

Seriously. You guys need to read before write.

It's a disaster in Chicago .. same thing will happen to the Leafs when they have to pay Matthews, Marner, Nylander and then you're trying to fit in JT.
Dreaming if you think Matthews will take $8,000,000 per year ... I'm guessing he's going to get $11,500,000, he's going to get less the McDavid but definitely more then Eichel. Same with Tavares , why would he take $8,500,000 when he can make $12,000,000 +

Toews and Kane signed their $6,300,000 deals after winning the Stanley Cup, they got paid more for their team performance.

Just because he's from Toronto doesn't mean he will lose out on a lot of money to play in Toronto.
How'd that work out with Stamkos ?

you're right , everyone else is out of touch and you're dream world of everyone taking BIG discounts to play in Toronto is reality.
EVERYONE wants to come to Toronto.
I heard Doughty is going going to take the league minimum to sign a 7 year deal summer 2019.

I live in Toronto, no NHL player is taking a discount to play here.

I would exchange 7 years of future cap hell for 3 stanley cups in a heart beat...where do I sign up?

When it comes to Matthews...I will be stunned if he isn't well north of $10m. I love to imagine a scenario where Lou has a verbal commitment from Tavares as to what number gets him signed...then he sits in a room with Matthews, Marner and Nylander and their respective agents and explains what the team can do if they're each willing to re-up for the figures you have shown above. It's a real 'Kumbaya' experience in my head

Kypreos? Is that you? Ignorance is bliss especially when you mix the Leaf koolaid and your apples to oranges comparisons.

Rfa's have no leverage coming out of their ELC's meaning the get what they get. There is no "take" like you say and using McDavid, Draisaitl and Eichel just further shows you've had too much of that koolaid.
Nylander and Marner are barely top 50 players as far as scoring and points per game is concerned and Matthews is in the 20-30 range. We all love our guys but you're comparing to the best and two others that were top 10 last year and Draisaitl again this year is ridiculous.

In fact, Draisaitl isn't even a good comparable for Matthews, he would be the high water mark.

Maybe Tavares doesn't want to leave his bad situation in New York and if it is all about money he will have better options. But. And this is a big but, remember why these guys play hockey? It's to win.

And if you'd taken the time to read the description rather than just chirping like an amateur, you'd see this was only to show how little cap space there really is.

Edmonton and buffalo are prepared to shoot themselves in the foot in a cap system but I don't believe Toronto will. Guys like you thought Kadri was going to get 6 or 7M on his deal and he signed for 4.5M.

There is more to life than money.

And enough with the baseless comparing of Matthews to McDavid. Its hilarious.

Stamkos is on a contender, lives in Florida, and pays no income tax. Tavares plays for NYI. Pretty much sums that up.

Toews and Kane are both better than what we have right now, plus they won Cups, and what did their contracts look like coming out of ELC? 6.3M plus inflation and you're in the 8 range for Matthews who hasn't won a Cup yet.

Google the the stats on Nhl.com and look at the names around the Toronto players. Those are their comparables.

Tavares may get 12M on the open market but name a contender that can pay him that? Winning has a price and if it's in Toronto, it's not 12M.

I can't wait for Nylander to sign so we can get a glimpse of the salary structure management is putting forth.

Want a good comparable? Floroda. Barkov, Huberdeau and Trochek. Matthews, Marner and Nylander.

I rest my case.

Trust me , I don't drink any Leaf koolaid. I'm the furthest from a leafs fan.
If you think Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares are going to sign for way under market value just to play for the Leafs then you're the one who's drinking all the koolaid as you say.

You're saying RFA's have zero leverage ?
Eichel got $10,000,000 coming off his ELC .. who'd you rather have Eichel or Matthews?
McDavid got $12,500,000 coming off his ELC ... you're zero leverage has no merit.

Draisaitl is the high water mark? come on man, you can't honestly think that.

You can't compare what guys signed for in the 2010-2011 season to what they are signing for now.
Both Eichel and McDavid haven't won a cup, in fact their 6 years combined of NHL hockey between the 2 of them they have 2 playoff rounds and McDavid owns both of those. That didn't factor in the contract signings for either as both got what they wanted.

Guys do have options, don't want to sign in the NHL go play overseas. No one is going to hold a gun to their head saying "you must sign this discounted contract to play for leafs" Don't want to sign, hold out, play overseas, force a trade.
They will all sign for more then the Florida guys you mentioned above, the only player I could see maybe taking a little less is Nylander but that's on a bridge 2 year deal. Get them through next year, sign Matthews and Marner then back to Nylander the following year when the cap should be higher.

If Tavares is going to take a discount why not go sign in San Jose, Boston, Washington, Nashville, St Louis .. all over the cap space to afford a heavily discount Tavares and offer a better chance at a Stanley Cup then Toronto.

We will see in July

McDavid won everything last year and his GM raised the salary bar. Eichel threw a tantrum, the owner fired the coach and GM and gave him big money to stay.

Draisaitl has outscored Matthews each year and in terms of comparables, he would be the high water mark.

Every other team in the league, outside of Edmonton and Buffalo, use comps and salary structure and most are trying to win. Only the big boys like Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, McDavid, and to a degree, Doughty, signed contracts that pushed the limit coming out of their ELC's. Eichel is the exception to the rule but that team is miles from winning.

In Toronto, finally, it is about winning. And like Chicago and Edmonton have shown, you can't win when you hand out foolish contracts.