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Big Movement

Created by: Shylo_Moxii
Team: 2017-18 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 6, 2018
Published: May 7, 2018
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Description
Montreal needs something in return for what they trade. Tyler Toffoli can play 2nd Line and they get Anze Kopitar an amazing first Line. But for the loss of Kopitar LA gets a second round pick and a First round. You also gain a Defenseman for your Farm System. and you still have about 9 million left in Cap Space.
Trades
LAK
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Pacioretty, Max
  3. 2018 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2018 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
If Anze Kopitar scores 40 Goals or 100 Point LAK get 2018 Second Round and 2020 First Round
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
27$79,000,000$71,180,475$0$702,500$7,819,525
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$912,500$912,500
C
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$4,600,000$4,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
C
UFA - 2
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 9
$6,500,000$6,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333
RD
UFA - 3
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
$755,000$755,000 (Performance Bonus$95,000$95K)
RD
UFA - 1

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May 7, 2018 at 12:15 a.m.
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The kings laugh you out of the league. I mean COME. ON.
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May 7, 2018 at 12:15 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
The kings laugh you out of the league. I mean COME. ON.


rolling eyes
May 7, 2018 at 12:18 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
The kings laugh you out of the league. I mean COME. ON.


Best way to start a rebuild. You think it's lopsided. Well you just gained the 2nd pick Overall. Starting a fresh start with having most of the team in tact adding pretty good goal scoring.
May 7, 2018 at 12:21 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
The kings laugh you out of the league. I mean COME. ON.


You laugh for what? The fact that you just gained Pacioretty, and Galchenyuk for Toffoli and Kopitar. yes that is a down grade, but it isn't over you still have good chance at making playoffs.Because Galchenyuk is an upgrade. Pacioretty and the 2nd overall pick is an upgrade because you aren't just looking at next year you are also looking at the long-term future.
May 7, 2018 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
The kings laugh you out of the league. I mean COME. ON.


So Yes you are losing out on playoffs for a few years, but you also now have the opportunity to sign Johnny T as well. Now look you have Johnny T, 2nd Overall pick, Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, and a 2nd Round Pick. You think the Kings would laugh when they look that far in to it?
May 7, 2018 at 12:26 a.m.
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It’s not Montreal’s 2nd overall being sent to LA, though. It’s their 2019 first rounder.
May 7, 2018 at 12:30 a.m.
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Quoting: OngoGablogian
It’s not Montreal’s 2nd overall being sent to LA, though. It’s their 2019 first rounder.


Whoops, but that is what it was supposed to be. 2018 First Rd, 2018 Second Rd, Galchenyuk, Pacioretty, Conditional 2020 First Rd and Conditional 2018 Second Rd
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May 7, 2018 at 12:31 a.m.
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Whoops, but that is what it was supposed to be. 2018 First Rd, 2018 Second Rd, Galchenyuk, Pacioretty, Conditional 2020 First Rd and Conditional 2018 Second Rd

For Kopitar, Toffoli, and Jordan Subban a Dman prospect
May 7, 2018 at 12:33 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Whoops, but that is what it was supposed to be. 2018 First Rd, 2018 Second Rd, Galchenyuk, Pacioretty, Conditional 2020 First Rd and Conditional 2018 Second Rd


Ah, okay. Yeah, that’s a pretty nice incentive for LA - especially as they’re an aging team. I could see this deal happening.
May 7, 2018 at 12:34 a.m.
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The kings laugh you out of the league. I mean COME. ON.


I don’t see how either side doesn’t benefit. Montreal gets there man in Kopitar and LA gets the Second Overall pick and the cap space to sign John Tavares
May 7, 2018 at 1:02 a.m.
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Your value of Pacioretty is much too high.
Pacioretty is coming off a 17 goal 37 point season, he only has 1 year before he is a UFA and he turns 30 this year. His value is trending down.
Galchenyuk is a good young winger, Really smart hockey minds keep saying they like him on the wing and there is a reason why.

So, that said I think the arguement can be made that value wise Galchenyuk and Toffoli are close. I think it just depends on the type of player you want, smaller, speedy, skilled Galchenyuk or a Rougher, power game with skill in Toffoli.
Kopitar is a top 5 in the league Center. A Franchise type player. He is coming off his best season offensively and although he is turning 31 this year he has never used speed in his game so it projects he will still play at a high level for the foreseeable future. While Pacioretty is coming off a huge disappointment of a season and his career is tending down as I stated above. The other piece is an unproven draft pick... which has its value but not near enough value that would move an organization to trade their Franchise player.

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I don’t see how either side doesn’t benefit. Montreal gets there man in Kopitar and LA gets the Second Overall pick and the cap space to sign John Tavares


I'm not sure I understand the logic in saying lets trade our Franchise center, creating a hole in the organization, in hopes of having a chance at signing a player we hope will be the same value to our team. That is asinine.
May 7, 2018 at 2:26 a.m.
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Quoting: SirCharles
Your value of Pacioretty is much too high.
Pacioretty is coming off a 17 goal 37 point season, he only has 1 year before he is a UFA and he turns 30 this year. His value is trending down.
Galchenyuk is a good young winger, Really smart hockey minds keep saying they like him on the wing and there is a reason why.

So, that said I think the arguement can be made that value wise Galchenyuk and Toffoli are close. I think it just depends on the type of player you want, smaller, speedy, skilled Galchenyuk or a Rougher, power game with skill in Toffoli.
Kopitar is a top 5 in the league Center. A Franchise type player. He is coming off his best season offensively and although he is turning 31 this year he has never used speed in his game so it projects he will still play at a high level for the foreseeable future. While Pacioretty is coming off a huge disappointment of a season and his career is tending down as I stated above. The other piece is an unproven draft pick... which has its value but not near enough value that would move an organization to trade their Franchise player.



I'm not sure I understand the logic in saying lets trade our Franchise center, creating a hole in the organization, in hopes of having a chance at signing a player we hope will be the same value to our team. That is asinine.


But your not just adding 1 future player your adding 2 and that is what the Conditional picks are for I see Kopitar is trending upwards so if he does end having a 40+ goal season or a 100+ point season LA will be awarded 2 not 1 but 2 Conditional picks. That means you gain 4 players that could be the next big thing. Pacioretty might have had his worst year, but you might get something good out of him with a new team new players and some better players on his line to play with. Doughty is a better passer than Shea Weber ever was and that might benefit Pacioretty and his stats. Your also forgetting the fact that if Montreal does as bad as they did last season your getting another few higher end picks. LA’s future is key. A rebuild isn’t the worst thing LA could do. LA wouldn’t even be rebuilding just grabbing different fire power. I really think Tavares would work well beside a Jonathan Drouin and a Brendan Gallagher but Montreal wants now. I can see John Tavares working along side Dustin, or Carter.
Guys that he can work with to score goals. LA is the one winning in this trade. Montreal wouldn’t pass this up. And LA would really have to think about it, but it’s time for them to think Future. The players they won 2 Stanley cups with some of them aren’t as effective. LA has to find a better way to get to the main goal again... winning Stanley Cups. And if I am LA I am finding the most effective way to be a playoff team now, maybe even a Stanley Cup winner, and make a Stanley cup winner in the future as well. 2 birds one stone
May 7, 2018 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Best way to start a rebuild. You think it's lopsided. Well you just gained the 2nd pick Overall. Starting a fresh start with having most of the team in tact adding pretty good goal scoring.


We both know that when I made that comment it was a 2019 1st. You edited it
May 7, 2018 at 1:38 p.m.
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We both know that when I made that comment it was a 2019 1st. You edited it


and I fixed it. I pressed the wrong one on my phone, but it really is obvious that it isn't a trade that LA would laugh at.
May 7, 2018 at 1:39 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
We both know that when I made that comment it was a 2019 1st. You edited it


It's a fair trade. You just don't see it because you don't know hockey well enough. I am trying to think of trades that benefit both teams. But you wouldn't understand that
May 7, 2018 at 1:52 p.m.
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It's a fair trade. You just don't see it because you don't know hockey well enough. I am trying to think of trades that benefit both teams. But you wouldn't understand that


You changed the trade after I commented and don't have the character to admit it
May 7, 2018 at 1:56 p.m.
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You changed the trade after I commented and don't have the character to admit it


I mean even if it was a 2019 First Round. Montreal still won't be a playoff team soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo still a top 10 a least lottery pick. So LA still aren't laughing. It is still realistic
 
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