From an Oilers fan, the Flames are getting absolutely robbed in that deal! Trading all that youth for two players leaving their prime years.

Ya that Calgary trade is horrendous.

MN fan here, I like the Coyle trade but don't know much about JDLR. True center or wing? And what is his goal upside? Feels like the wild would rather have a pick or a higher risk/reward prospect than another bottom six guy, could be wrong.

De La Rose is a big, extremely responsible centreman. He's a lot like Eller -- maybe a little less offensive, but a lot more defensively solid.

Thanks for the stars. What would you think of facing this lineup?

This team is truly lacking some Gudbranson. Van will send him over right away.

As a Habs fan, to be fair, you don't want to trade Coyle for that package. Lindgren may or may not become a starter in this league, there's upside in him although a risk attached to it as well. DLR is a centre but he will be a defensive 3C at best, just doesn't have the kinda offensive talent. His goal upside? Maybe 10-15 goals.

I was trying to figure out what it would take to get Tkachuk. Bennett is nothing special and Andersson is really only important if Hamilton is dealt. My thinking was giving the Flames a lot more horsepower for the next couple of years in return for some gritty pieces of the future. But, yeah, it's a big mortgage on the future for some more immediate help, which is why I thought the #1-round pick in 2019 helped.

Assuming for a second the right combo of pieces could be created that would make Calgary part with Tkachuk, what do you think of this Habs lineup?

I'd love me some Gudbranson.

OK, strip out Bennett and Andersson (similarly nasty players can be found in UFA market), would this be enough for Tkachuk?

I actually thought about going back for Kassian, too. But what I really want to find is a 25-year-old version of Steve Ott. Suggestions?

I don't think they would trade tkachuk for quantity that includes older ufa players and a future first.

Add in Poehling?

Right so Coyle has shown he can score 20 and play center, upside could be a 2C downside is 3C at worst. Rough year this year with injury but getting a solid but not great goalie prospect and a 3C seems below value unless you love Lindgren. A cheaper and slightly less monstrous Nick Bjugstad is really what Coyle is, but I would strongly disagree he makes you any nastier.

Thanks. I remember him as an ornery prick when he played in junior. I don't think of him as dirty, just a really solid hitter. Perhaps that has changed.

I disagree slightly with Artuma on JDLR's upside. He is only 23 and he's pretty much tracking right on Eller's career path. He's better on faceoffs and more consistent shift to shift than Eller, but Eller could sometimes (rarely) really turn on the offence and make stuff happen. He always leaves coaches wanting more. With JDLR, it's much more WYSIWYG. Steady.

Interesting, I am all for giving guys with upside shots on MN this year instead of shuffling out the same roster for the 4th year in a row. Seems like MN and MTL have talked a lot on coyle, and according to our beat writer there were some looks at Patches and Galch too. No one can tell me for sure whether Galch is a center or wing which is troubling.

Eller's offensive tools are worlds beyond DLR's but DLR is the smarter player. The reason Eller never panned out in Montreal like hoped was simply because he has terrible offensive IQ which is a pity as he is incredibly talented and strong with the puck. DLR just doesn't have that. I agree though, he is consistent and you'll always know what you'll get when you put him on ice. Sadly, that's almost never scoring.

The lineup is better and a lot grittier with Tkachuk and Coyle that is for sure but you still need to address your most important issue, 2 bonifde players that are true centres. I think getting Coyle is actually better then getting Tkachuk but that’s just my opinion

Honestly, on Galchenyuk, it depends entirely on the coach. In Vegas or L.A., Chucky would be turned loose to play centre because the wingers are expected to do a lot more of the backchecking. In Montreal, he scores way more as a centreman, but then had Therrien barking in his ear because he didn't "play the system" every shift. The poor ******* can't win in Montreal. I suspect wherever he goes, his scoring jumps 50% and his happiness 100%+.

Would Staal get him straight up? And if not what would you add to Coyle to make it even?

I think almost need to view JDLR on two levels -- Pre-Pleks and Post-Pleks. He was a different player -- a way better player -- once Pleks was traded and Julien let De La Rose play up with some talented wingers and didn't bench him every third shift for being young.

Would Staal get Galchenyuk? That's a big age gap. Besides, why mess with what works? Staal works in Minn.

1 year left and after that we may not be able to afford him. Im on the trade the core bandwagon of Minnesota fans, outside of dumba and spurge i'd move almost anyone and get worse in the short term rather than being average for the next five years after being average the last 5

A player's game elevates when getting skilled players around him? Not a new concept buddy.

Absolutely, which is why I said initially that I think you're undervaluing him. He just needed to be turned loose.

Well it wasn't like he set the world on fire after Pleks was traded. I don't think he's a guy we should dump, like you said he's only 23 and he has a role in our lineup, whether it's 3C or 4C. However, there's a chance we bring Pleks back and even if we don't, we need a bigger sample size to determine if he can score or not on a consistent level. I don't see the scoring talent, and as long as he doesn't prove me wrong, I don't see a lot of value in him as a trade chip. He's a keeper, but I doubt he'll ever score 35 points in this league.