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Created by: JTuckerIII
Team: 2018-19 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 4, 2018
Published: Jun. 4, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$725,000
1$2,000,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,250,000
1$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,250,000
3$1,500,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Berglund, Patrik
  2. Blais, Samuel
  3. Schmaltz, Jordan
  4. 2018 1st round pick (WPG)
  5. 2019 1st round pick (STL)
2.
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,000,000$68,959,321$150,988$232,500$12,040,679

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,350,000$5,350,000
LW
UFA - 3
$5,125,000$5,125,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$5,750,000$5,750,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
$5,725,000$5,725,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 5
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 5
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$894,166$894,166
C, RW
UFA - 3
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$741,667$741,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$50,000$50K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 3
$722,500$722,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 1
$5,400,000$5,400,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,900,000$2,900,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 4, 2018 at 6:15 a.m.
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I think the Sabres would want better prospects,
even if that means we wouldn’t get the 1st round picks
Jun. 4, 2018 at 6:22 a.m.
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Counter offer, Berglund, Thompson, 1st?
Jun. 4, 2018 at 8:53 a.m.
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Five stars for wanting O'Reilly
Two "B" prospects, an over paid 3rd line center, 2018 1st (29th over all) that is nearly a 2nd and a 2019 1st that will most likely not be a lottery pick. Berglund could play 2nd line center to start the season until Mittelstadt is more comfortable in the NHL. Jordan Schmaltz may develop into a decent RHD, but he may have reached his peak performance already.
I think Botterill could better, this is very close maybe drop Jordan Schmaltz and add a 2018 2nd? That would give Botterill 4 picks among the top 45 this year, Berglund to play 2nd C, a 1st next year and a "B" prospect.
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Jun. 4, 2018 at 9:57 a.m.
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Five stars for wanting O'Reilly
Two "B" prospects, an over paid 3rd line center, 2018 1st (29th over all) that is nearly a 2nd and a 2019 1st that will most likely not be a lottery pick. Berglund could play 2nd line center to start the season until Mittelstadt is more comfortable in the NHL. Jordan Schmaltz may develop into a decent RHD, but he may have reached his peak performance already.
I think Botterill could better, this is very close maybe drop Jordan Schmaltz and add a 2018 2nd? That would give Botterill 4 picks among the top 45 this year, Berglund to play 2nd C, a 1st next year and a "B" prospect.


Why do you hate ROR so much? lol
Jun. 4, 2018 at 10:07 a.m.
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Five stars for wanting O'Reilly
Two "B" prospects, an over paid 3rd line center, 2018 1st (29th over all) that is nearly a 2nd and a 2019 1st that will most likely not be a lottery pick. Berglund could play 2nd line center to start the season until Mittelstadt is more comfortable in the NHL. Jordan Schmaltz may develop into a decent RHD, but he may have reached his peak performance already.
I think Botterill could better, this is very close maybe drop Jordan Schmaltz and add a 2018 2nd? That would give Botterill 4 picks among the top 45 this year, Berglund to play 2nd C, a 1st next year and a "B" prospect.


1 star for wanting ROR. I don't want him on the team especially for 5 years at 7.5. Not worth to me. He's okay. Not going to put the Blues over the top.
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Jun. 4, 2018 at 10:10 a.m.
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Why do you hate ROR so much? lol


Thank you for your comment.
Because, little kids lose their teeth because they love to play the game. if you lose your love of the game get out of town.
Do you remember we were sold a bill of goods that he was a two way player. Can you tell me ONE other forward who is considered a 2 way player who only had 2 penalty minutes in a year? We were told he would bring character to the team, well he showed his character when he ran away from an auto accident. Finally, Zadorov may have been enough for him, DATM way over paid.
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Jun. 4, 2018 at 10:16 a.m.
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1 star for wanting ROR. I don't want him on the team especially for 5 years at 7.5. Not worth to me. He's okay. Not going to put the Blues over the top.


LOL, not my post but I do see your point.
Jun. 4, 2018 at 10:24 a.m.
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LOL, not my post but I do see your point.


I know. Forgot to quote both of you lol
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Jun. 4, 2018 at 10:44 a.m.
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Thank you for your comment.
Because, little kids lose their teeth because they love to play the game. if you lose your love of the game get out of town.
Do you remember we were sold a bill of goods that he was a two way player. Can you tell me ONE other forward who is considered a 2 way player who only had 2 penalty minutes in a year? We were told he would bring character to the team, well he showed his character when he ran away from an auto accident. Finally, Zadorov may have been enough for him, DATM way over paid.


Interesting take - that's all fair I think. Though at the time I think the value for getting him made sense. A young, 1st line center has a high price. It'll be interesting to see if the Blues do go after him what the public perception of his trade value and what GMs see for him would be. It's not out of the realm of possibility to see getting Tarasenko on his wing and getting them both 75+ points.
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Jun. 4, 2018 at 11:06 a.m.
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I don't think either trade is enough for those players. Both teams are looking to improve from last year, Buffalo wants out of the basement and Carolina wants to push for the playoffs. There needs to be a significant piece going to buffalo for them to bite on trading ROR. It is going to take at least 1 of Fabbri/Dunn/Kyrou/Thomas in order for them to even listen. They aren't going to take pure futures (late 1st at that), Two "meh" prospects in Blais & Schmaltz, and an average third liner.

Carolina isn't trading a 25-30 goal scorer for a 3rd line LW/C, a goalie prospect, and a 2nd. Even if he is just a one year rental. At minimum they could get a 1st and better prospect if they just hold onto him until the deadline.

Outside of that, I don't know why we would overpay Maroon to then play both Steen and Fabbri on their offsides. Steen is way better on LW than RW and putting Fabs on his off wing after being out for 1.5 years just seems like putting him at a disadvantage.

With this roster we still only have 1 RHS in the top 9 and only 2 in the entire forward lines. We need to be targeting more RHS forwards to balance this out or we are still going to be running a predictable and unproductive power play.

Adjusting the trade values, ROR/Skinner are both good targets in their own right, but the combination still leaves us unbalanced and having too many LWers and not enough RWers (even though Skinner can play some RW). I combination of ROR/Silfverberg or Tyler Johnson/Skinner helps add elements we need while balancing the LHS/RHS ratio.
 
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