Trades, high draft picks and another 10 years of contending

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Created by: HawksFan28

Team: 2018-19 Chicago Blackhawks

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2018

Published: Jun. 6, 2018

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I made a lot of trades here in an attempt to stock up on top picks in this draft.... That was my number one priority given how deep this draft is. It's an excellent opportunity for the Hawks to get players that will make this team a contender for another 10+ years.....

With that said I ended up with picks:

4th - Tkachuk
8th - Dobson
11th - Veleno
12 - (I have no idea who I would draft there)

So this team does have 27 players, so this really isn't a "roster" per se - it's more of a depth chart.

Of course there will be plenty of debate on the 3 trades I made, however what I proposed isn't "outlandish" by any means - I really think what I proposed is "close" - maybe the Hawks would have to add a pick or a prospect here or there but I think the trades are close....

The long-term outlook for the team is great too, if this was the Hawks roster Bowman would have at least 20 million next season to get Schmaltz signed and maybe extend a few guys - so the Hawks wouldn't be in "cap hell" any time in the near future....

But there are plenty of options in the top 6 and many options in the bottom 6 so that is certainly a strength this team has - it's a very versatile team and adding Tkachuk, Dobson, Veleno and whomever is drafted at #12 along with DeBrincat, Schmaltz, Jokiheru (sp) will really set this team up to be contenders for the next decade..

As far as goaltending - why not a Hutton/Darling tandem?? Darling was excellent here in Chicago, and Hutton had a really good season last year....I would bet Hutton/Darling would be more effective than Forsberg/Burube and that gong show in goal last season....

Ok, criticize away.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Duclair, Anthony	1	$1,250,000
Hinostroza, Vinnie	1	$1,250,000
Hayden, John	1	$1,250,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Tkachuk, Brady	3	$925,000
Dobson, Noah	3	$925,000
Bozak, Tyler	3	$4,000,000
Moore, John	3	$2,500,000
Hutton, Carter	1	$2,000,000
Veleno, Joe	3	$925,000
Martinsen, Andreas	1	$700,000
Vermette, Antoine	1	$800,000
Wingels, Tommy	1	$1,500,000

Trades

CHI

Ryan, Bobby ($1,250,000 retained)
2018 1st round pick (OTT)

OTT

Hossa, Marián
Murphy, Connor
2018 1st round pick (NSH)

CHI

2018 1st round pick (NYI)
2018 1st round pick (CGY)

NYI

Crawford, Corey
Forsling, Gustav
2018 3rd round pick (CHI)
2019 2nd round pick (CHI)

CHI

Darling, Scott ($2,000,000 retained)
Faulk, Justin

CAR

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$80,000,000	$69,658,045	$1,232,500	$1,907,500	$10,341,955

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Saad, Brandon $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Toews, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Ryan, Bobby $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
DeBrincat, Alex $778,333$778,333 ($132,500$132K) LW, RW UFA - 2	Schmaltz, Nick $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, C UFA - 1	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 5
Ejdsell, Victor $833,750$833,750 C, LW RFA - 1	Bozak, Tyler $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Hayden, John $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2
Sikura, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Hinostroza, Vinnie $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Wingels, Tommy $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA
Duclair, Anthony $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Vermette, Antoine $800,000$800,000 C, LW UFA	Tkachuk, Brady $925,000$925,000
Veleno, Joe $925,000$925,000		Martinsen, Andreas $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 5	Faulk, Justin $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Moore, John $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 5	Seabrook, Brent $6,875,000$6,875,000 RD NMC UFA - 6
Dobson, Noah $925,000$925,000	Rutta, Jan $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Darling, Scott $2,150,000$2,150,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Gustafsson, Erik $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 2	Oesterle, Jordan $650,000$650,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Hutton, Carter $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 3

Jun. 6, 2018 at 6:45 p.m.

clark

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send aren't trading down 22 spots just to exchange Murphy and Ryan, especially when you want to retain on Ryan.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 6:53 p.m.

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Quoting: clark

send aren't trading down 22 spots just to exchange Murphy and Ryan, especially when you want to retain on Ryan.

Melnyk desperately wants to get rid of Ryan......

But like I said, the Hawks may have to add something, perhaps Duclair or Hinostroza??? or the Hawks just take Ryan at full price....

You do know Hossa is basically a "cap coupon" so he won't count against the Sens salary cap...... Melnyk gets 5.275 cap hit for a measly 1 million in salary...... I mean it would help Melnyk keep Karlsson and sign one of his other key free agents....

This trade would give Ottawa a lot of flexibility..

Jun. 6, 2018 at 6:56 p.m.

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Quoting: HawksFan28

OTT could easily keep Karlsson. They don’t have a cap problem, they have a cheap as fk owner problem.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:01 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangles

OTT could easily keep Karlsson. They don’t have a cap problem, they have a cheap as fk owner problem.

Exactly, which is where Hossa comes in....... They lose the Ryan salary for 1 million bucks - they could put the money they're paying Ryan towards Karlsson... That is the whole point of Hossa being in the deal....

Ottawa loses 7.50 in Ryan
Ottawa takes on 1 million (cash salary) in Hossa

Which leaves 6.50 in extra cash to keep Karlsson around.

Right now he doesn't want to pay Karlsson what he's worth because he's stuck with paying Ryan....... Hawks can help with that if Ottawa is willing to swap pick #4 for pick #27..

It's actually a pretty good deal from a financial perspective.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:02 p.m.

clark

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Quoting: HawksFan28

The trade in effect makes Ottawa pay for Murphy at 3.8m plus take on 1.2m of Ryan. so the dollar savings isn't that much for missing out of what might be premier player. I don't see Ottawa being a cap floor team, they never were before, so I don't know if hossa is at all necessary. there probably isn't a team that needs to get the cap floor. with hossa on ltir really his cap hit is meaningless to the hawks or any team.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:02 p.m.

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Quoting: HawksFan28

But for 4th overall...not a chance.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:10 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangles

But for 4th overall...not a chance.

Well, then you lose Karlsson.....

No team is going to take Ryan without sending salary back, and if you're stuck with Ryan then Karlsson walks because Melnyk is apparently on budget..

The Hawks can send you 1 million in salary for Ryans 7.5 million in salary....

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:13 p.m.

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Quoting: clark

Whatever then, Hossa & 27 for Ryan & 4.....

This is a financial deal....

The Sens wont keep Ryan and Karlsson (because Melnyk is on a budget)....... And no team is just going to "take" Ryan without sending salary back...... The Blackhawks can, but it would cost swapping pick 27 for pick 4..

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:14 p.m.

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Well, then you lose Karlsson.....

No team is going to take Ryan without sending salary back, and if you're stuck with Ryan then Karlsson walks because Melnyk is apparently on budget.

The Hawks can send you 1 million in salary for Ryans 7.5 million in salary....

How is this clearing space for them?

OTT costs:
Ryan $1.25
Hossa $1
Murphy $3.85
Total $6.1 compared to Ryan’s current $7.25.

So just over $1 mil is the make or break to keep Karlsson?

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:17 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangles

How is this clearing space for them?

OTT costs:
Ryan $1.25
Hossa $1
Murphy $3.85
Total $6.1 compared to Ryan’s current $7.25.

So just over $1 mil is the make or break to keep Karlsson?

I just threw those guys into the deal because I figured you would want on ice assets.....

I would do Hossa & 27 for Ryan & 4......

That deal would save you 6.50 at full price..

If Ottawa retains 1.5

Ottawa saves 5 million.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:19 p.m.

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I just threw those guys into the deal because I figured you would want on ice assets.....

I would do Hossa & 27 for Ryan & 4......

That deal would save you 6.50

Nobody is trading a top 5 pick to get rid of a contract.

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Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:25 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangles

Nobody is trading a top 5 pick to get rid of a contract.

You're trading #4 for #27 in order to save 6.5 million dollars...

Melnyk would......

You still get a first round pick in a deep draft.....

But like I said - Karlsson is going to walk if Ryan is on the books because Melnyk will not pay Ryan 7.5 and Karlsson 10 and there is no team in the league that will take 7.5 in salary in exchange for 1 million dollars in salary without a first round pick coming back - that 4th overall pick...... Beseides, Ottawa doesn't even have a first round pick next season....

So hypothetically it's trade the 4th or lose Karlsson..

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:29 p.m.

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No it’s not.

Why wouldn’t Melnyk put the money up and move Hoffman for assets instead and keep the 4th? Ryan is still a useful player, overpaid yes but useful. Plus they could likely get another mid round first and more for Hoffman. So they get Karlsson, their 4th, something between 15-20 and a sweetener instead of 27 and Hossa.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:43 p.m.

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Quoting: DirtyDangles

Fine, trade Hoffman...... You're going to get lowball offers tho...... Everyone knows Melnyk's position an they will use that against him...

One thing is certain tho, you're not going to be able to trade Ryan without adding a significant asset...

My trade would basically be:

Ryan, Tkachuk for 27th overall & Hossa (6.5 million dollars)

Not much different really from Bryan Bickell & Teuvo Teravainen for a 2nd & 3rd round pick...

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:44 p.m.

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Okay, first of all Murphy doesn't move you up from 27 to 4. Second, Faulk is a better player than Anisimov. And 3rd, the Isles aren't gonna give up BOTH their firsts for Crawford.

Jun. 6, 2018 at 7:53 p.m.

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Okay, first of all Murphy doesn't move you up from 27 to 4. Second, Faulk is a better player than Anisimov. And 3rd, the Isles aren't gonna give up BOTH their firsts for Crawford.

Dude, I'm just responding to rumors I have read from multiple sources..

Hawks are interested in Faulk.
Islanders are interested in Crawford.

Lets not forget the Carolina wants to dump Darling, so the Hawks taking that cap dump (back) will reduce the price the Hawks they have to pay for Faulk --- so it's not like it's Faulk straight up for Anisimov....... It's Anisimov, Forsberg and Hillman for Faulk and Darling (with some retention)....... That's not a bad deal if Carolina really wants to dump Darling..

And Crawford - I just can't see Bowman trading Crawford (in a package to the Islanders) for anything less than those 2 picks....... Crawford is invaluable to the Hawks, and the ONLY reason to trade Crawford would be in a deal Bowman couldn't refuse - and it would take those 2 first round picks to make it happen...

Look, I'm just responding to rumors... Not fantasizing...

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