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Draft Day Trades, Goalies Fixed. (CHI/MTL/BUF/DET/WSH)

Created by: canesfan3030
Team: 2018-19 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 8, 2018
Published: Jun. 8, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,150,000
3$3,150,000
3$2,150,000
3$2,150,000
2$1,150,000
3$4,150,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,150,000
Svechnikov, Andrei
3$925,000
Zadina, Filip
3$925,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. 2018 3rd round pick (TOR)
  2. 2018 5th round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Retain 25% of Marian Hossa's contract
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4.
CAR
  1. Benn, Jordie
  2. Lindgren, Charlie
  3. Pacioretty, Max
  4. 2018 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2018 2nd round pick (MTL)
5.
CAR
    RFA Rights to Phillipp Grubauer
    WSH
    1. Saarela, Aleksi
    2. 2018 2nd round pick (MTL)
    3. 2018 4th round pick (ARI)
    6.
    CAR
    1. 2018 1st round pick (CHI)
    CHI
    1. Fleury, Haydn
    2. Skinner, Jeff
    3. 2018 2nd round pick (CAR)
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    2020
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
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    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $2,150,000$2,150,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C
    UFA - 1
    $2,860,000$2,860,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $4,050,000$4,050,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    $1,875,000$1,875,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    Svechnikov, Andrei
    $925,000$925,000
    Zadina, Filip
    $925,000$925,000
    $894,167$894,167
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    RFA - 4
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
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    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    $887,500$887,500
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C, LW
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    UFA - 5
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
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    UFA - 2
    $746,667$746,667 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
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    UFA - 2
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    UFA - 7
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    UFA - 6
    $4,150,000$4,150,000
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    UFA - 3
    $700,000$700,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $2,150,000$2,150,000
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    UFA - 2
    $2,150,000$2,150,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    UFA - 1
    $745,000$745,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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    UFA - 1
    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
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    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:15 p.m.
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    Those are some of the more even trades ideas I've seen on here, maybe over payment on a couple of them. Nice job.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:42 p.m.
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    Hanafin was the third overall a few years ago so his value is pretty much still a third overall pick so I don’t get where Lindholm is worth Pacioretty, Lindgren Benn and a second round pick.

    Montreal easily says no to that trade.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:43 p.m.
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    Your lines are a mess. The D is really thin now. No reaon to sign Ward back if you are adding those 2. Buffalo passes on that. Wings too. But at least your trades are well thought out, tried to fill other teams needs, reasonable values for most part.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:46 p.m.
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    Hard pass from Detroit
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:50 p.m.
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    Who the hell is Wallmark? The only way Svechnikov ends up in Carolina. Is when Jake Beans winds up in Motown.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Hanafin was the third overall a few years ago so his value is pretty much still a third overall pick so I don’t get where Lindholm is worth Pacioretty, Lindgren Benn and a second round pick.

    Montreal easily says no to that trade.


    Where a player was taken has nothing to do with current trade value. There was a 40 goal scorer last year that was taken in the 6th round. Is he still only worth a 6th? Dumb logic. Take the second out and it’s not only pretty even but benefical to both teams. They put an unrealistic price tag on Max at the deadline and got a rude awkening. His trade value isn’t anwhere near what they or Habs fans think it is. Especially with only one year left and unlikely to re-sign. Benn and Lindgren have little value on their own. Adding 2 good young pieces under team control for a rental, spare parts, and a 1st. I think they do it.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Hanafin was the third overall a few years ago so his value is pretty much still a third overall pick so I don’t get where Lindholm is worth Pacioretty, Lindgren Benn and a second round pick.

    Montreal easily says no to that trade.


    MTL wants a first pairing defenseman and top 6 center and I literally gave you that
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 4:59 p.m.
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    Who the hell is Wallmark? The only way Svechnikov ends up in Carolina. Is when Jake Beans winds up in Motown.


    Look at last year's AHL stats hallmark has the most most points/game. he's honestly better than e svechnikov
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:01 p.m.
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    Your lines are a mess. The D is really thin now. No reaon to sign Ward back if you are adding those 2. Buffalo passes on that. Wings too. But at least your trades are well thought out, tried to fill other teams needs, reasonable values for most part.


    I think the lines actually look pretty good but how could they be improved w this roster?

    Also i'm just keeping ward around until lindgren is fully ready for the nhl which is probs 1 year maybe 2
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: canesfan3030
    Look at last year's AHL stats hallmark has the most most points/game. he's honestly better than e svechnikov


    Detroit's not doing winger for winger, If we deal Svechnikov it will be for one of Carolina's young D prospects nothing else.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Your lines are a mess. The D is really thin now. No reaon to sign Ward back if you are adding those 2. Buffalo passes on that. Wings too. But at least your trades are well thought out, tried to fill other teams needs, reasonable values for most part.


    And i agree that the defense did take a step back but it's still respectable
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:05 p.m.
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    Detroit's not doing winger for winger, If we deal Svechnikov it will be for one of Carolina's young D prospects nothing else.


    You are overvaluing svechnikov but we can give you h fleury if you really want. Btw wallmark plays center.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: canesfan3030
    MTL wants a first pairing defenseman and top 6 center and I literally gave you that


    How Lindholm a top 6 center, he sure hasn’t shown it yet in his career.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:11 p.m.
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    How Lindholm a top 6 center, he sure hasn’t shown it yet in his career.


    That's a chance you'll have to take but the deal is still fair
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:17 p.m.
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    You are overvaluing svechnikov but we can give you h fleury if you really want. Btw wallmark plays center.


    Who's overvaluing? Wallmark is a 4th round pick drafted at #97 in 2014 Svechnikov is a 1st round pick drafted at #19 in 2015 no way does Wallmark have the same value as E Svechnikov. Haydn Fleury would probably work but would rather do something around Svechnikov+AA for Jake Bean.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:18 p.m.
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    Where a player was taken has nothing to do with current trade value. There was a 40 goal scorer last year that was taken in the 6th round. Is he still only worth a 6th? Dumb logic. Take the second out and it’s not only pretty even but benefical to both teams. They put an unrealistic price tag on Max at the deadline and got a rude awkening. His trade value isn’t anwhere near what they or Habs fans think it is. Especially with only one year left and unlikely to re-sign. Benn and Lindgren have little value on their own. Adding 2 good young pieces under team control for a rental, spare parts, and a 1st. I think they do it.


    Yes players can out perform their draft placing but trading that many elite pieces for one isn’t being a good manager. Hanafin is good but your basically trading Zadina and Pacioretty for him, which is over paying for him.

    Benn is really the only one without value here, Lindgren looks like he will be an NHL goalie that equals value.

    And as for your assessment on Pacioretty well you either appreciate oak scorers or you don’t. But Pacioretty is still one of the best goal scorers in the game, last time I checked there was only about 5 guys who have scored more then him in the past 5 years.

    I mean would Carolina trade away one of 6 guys currently in the league to have 4 consecutive 30 goal seasons over the past 5 years? Did Rick Nash not get NY a first round pick, roster player, prospect and another pick?

    Look at the trade market and the history, Pacioretty is worth more then your giving him credit for.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: canesfan3030
    That's a chance you'll have to take but the deal is still fair


    How is it fair?

    Hanafin = 3rd overall

    Lindholm = Pacioretty, Lindgren, Benn and a second round pick?

    Your delusional
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: canesfan3030
    I think the lines actually look pretty good but how could they be improved w this roster?

    Also i'm just keeping ward around until lindgren is fully ready for the nhl which is probs 1 year maybe 2


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    And i agree that the defense did take a step back but it's still respectable


    Aho is not a center you can’t use him there. If you could you would not need to trade for one. 5 rookies? 3 of whom aren’t ready for NhL. Lindgren is NHL ready.

    Max-ROR-Aho
    McGinn-Staal-TT
    Zykov-Necas-Williams


    Rest of the rookies should be in jr or AHL. Need to spend some of the cap space on a 4th line and uograde the D which is a good top pair and a bumch of 3rd pairing types.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 5:49 p.m.
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    Yes players can out perform their draft placing but trading that many elite pieces for one isn’t being a good manager. Hanafin is good but your basically trading Zadina and Pacioretty for him, which is over paying for him.

    Benn is really the only one without value here, Lindgren looks like he will be an NHL goalie that equals value.

    And as for your assessment on Pacioretty well you either appreciate oak scorers or you don’t. But Pacioretty is still one of the best goal scorers in the game, last time I checked there was only about 5 guys who have scored more then him in the past 5 years.

    I mean would Carolina trade away one of 6 guys currently in the league to have 4 consecutive 30 goal seasons over the past 5 years? Did Rick Nash not get NY a first round pick, roster player, prospect and another pick?

    Look at the trade market and the history, Pacioretty is worth more then your giving him credit for.


    It would take more than Habs 1st rounder to get Hanifin. Trust me on this. B’s have tried and offered more.

    When trading for a player you are tading for what they are worth now and what you think they can do for you, not for what they did in the past. Which is why Habs could not get the asking Price they wanted for Max. 1sr and 3rd is his value right now til he regains his form.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 6:27 p.m.
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    It would take more than Habs 1st rounder to get Hanifin. Trust me on this. B’s have tried and offered more.

    When trading for a player you are tading for what they are worth now and what you think they can do for you, not for what they did in the past. Which is why Habs could not get the asking Price they wanted for Max. 1sr and 3rd is his value right now til he regains his form.


    So the Bruins offered Pasternak for Hanafin? Because that’s what Zadina is projecting to be, which is what dictates his trade value according to you.

    His value is a mid first rounder and a prospect, that prospects value would differ on what position and need they aimed for him to play.

    You can say that a players value is what they are going to do for a team but you have to look at their career and see what they have consistently done, when GM say there’s a guy who is going to score 30 us. For the past 7 years Pacioretty has been nothing but a top line left winger, over that time you could even say he was one of the 5 best left wingers in the game.

    You can have your opinion but stats and facts point to a very different story. Not to mention that if I’m Carolina he walks into their top PK unit, PP unit and probably plays 18 minutes a night.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 6:51 p.m.
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    i think with minor tweaks to trades these are good deals
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 6:52 p.m.
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    Aho is not a center you can’t use him there. If you could you would not need to trade for one. 5 rookies? 3 of whom aren’t ready for NhL. Lindgren is NHL ready.

    Max-ROR-Aho
    McGinn-Staal-TT
    Zykov-Necas-Williams

    Rest of the rookies should be in jr or AHL. Need to spend some of the cap space on a 4th line and uograde the D which is a good top pair and a bumch of 3rd pairing types.


    Aho is a center do you watch the canes? Cap friendly has him at lw but he played center with teravainen and zykov at the end of last year and it was successful.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 6:57 p.m.
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    Aho is a center do you watch the canes? Cap friendly has him at lw but he played center with teravainen and zykov at the end of last year and it was successful.



    I do, i watch everyone. He isn’t a center. He’s not very good defensively there and below average on faceoffs.. center on PP unit i can see.
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 6:59 p.m.
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    I do, i watch everyone. He isn’t a center. He’s not very good defensively there and below average on faceoffs.. center on PP unit i can see.


    Interesting... i guess if aho plays wing that will change things, but if the canes get zadina do you think they can both play next season?
    Jun. 8, 2018 at 7:00 p.m.
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    How is it fair?

    Hanafin = 3rd overall

    Lindholm = Pacioretty, Lindgren, Benn and a second round pick?

    Your delusional


    Hanifin is worth more than the third overall pick
     
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