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3 Way trade with Carolina and Minnesota

Created by: senators55
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2018
Published: Jun. 21, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Willing to pass on Jordan Greenway, if that is a deal breaker, for a B-list left handed D prospect
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,250,000
3$3,250,000
4$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Svechnikov, Andrei
3$900,000
Tkachuk, Brady
3$900,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. 2018 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Noah Hanifan
CAR
  1. Karlsson, Erik
  2. 2018 1st round pick (PIT)
2.
OTT
  1. 2018 6th round pick (TBL)
3.
PHI
  1. Harpur, Ben
  2. Ryan, Bobby ($1,300,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Mark Stone
4.
OTT
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
Matt Dumba
MIN
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Claesson
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$80,000,000$58,757,500$0$2,415,000$21,242,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Svechnikov, Andrei
$900,000$900,000
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$710,000$710K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
Tkachuk, Brady
$900,000$900,000
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$4,700,000$4,700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 2
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 5
$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 6
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,400,000$2,400,000
G
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$678,889$678,889
RD
UFA - 2
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
$755,000$755,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Jun. 21, 2018 at 2:29 p.m.
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Easy pass for the Wild. We have a surplus at LW and going for Skinner makes no sense. We give up way too much in this trade for how little we get in return. Dumba alone could probably get that package (though, I doubt there would be any interest to do that).

Edit: also, we have no need for any more LD. Our team needs are a top 6 RIGHT SHOT RW, Top 6 RIGHT SHOT offensive C, and if we trade one of Dumba/Spurgeon/Brodin, then a top 4 D coming back to replace them.
Jun. 21, 2018 at 2:39 p.m.
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Quoting: arousedcat
Easy pass for the Wild. We have a surplus at LW and going for Skinner makes no sense. We give up way too much in this trade for how little we get in return. Dumba alone could probably get that package (though, I doubt there would be any interest to do that).

Edit: also, we have no need for any more LD. Our team needs are a top 6 RIGHT SHOT RW, Top 6 RIGHT SHOT offensive C, and if we trade one of Dumba/Spurgeon/Brodin, then a top 4 D coming back to replace them.


How about the change?
Jun. 21, 2018 at 2:44 p.m.
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That Philly trade is pretty (read: very) bad. Mark Stone is far and away the best player in that trade and it's not even close. Myers and Konecny don't come anywhere close to the value of Stone, so the trade doesn't make any sense after that. Sure, you save yourself a bit of cap by offloading Ryan, but it's at the cost of the Sens' best player outside of Karlsson.
Jun. 21, 2018 at 3:03 p.m.
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Pretty steep price for 1 year of EK.
Jun. 21, 2018 at 3:08 p.m.
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Quoting: senators55
How about the change?


I still don't like it, it fills none of our team needs. As I said, the only way we trade Dumba is for another top 4 RHD coming back, which Claesson is not. Skinner isn't a fit either, as I mentioned, we have no need for left shot forwards. If you want Dumba, the trade would have to be something like Konecny and Ceci along with a pick such as a 2019 second in this scenario. If teams want Dumba, they're going to have to give up A LOT to get him. He's a 3-piece player meaning the asking price will be a serviceable player to replace him, a very good prospect along with a 1-3rd round pick
Jun. 21, 2018 at 6:18 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 21, 2018 at 6:25 p.m.
Quoting: Claebom
That Philly trade is pretty (read: very) bad. Mark Stone is far and away the best player in that trade and it's not even close. Myers and Konecny don't come anywhere close to the value of Stone, so the trade doesn't make any sense after that. Sure, you save yourself a bit of cap by offloading Ryan, but it's at the cost of the Sens' best player outside of Karlsson.


I wouldn't take that package for Stone, that's for sure

Yeah, you unload Ryan at 6.0 x 4 years (because retaining 1.3) but you get Lethera dead money for 1 year. Ryan at 6.0 is not too much overpaid. He is still very capable top-6 forward like we saw in parts last season and in the playoffs run. If he could stay healthy and produce over 50 pts (that's what he did 2 years ago last time he was healthy enough), then you don't really need to trade him until prospects are ready to take his place.

Myers is a good prospect but Harpur is also underrated like every other player who played on the Sens this season. He was one of the best D-man in the AHL and had very strong showings once he joined the team. It's just that when you play on a bad team, everybody becomes "bad" (at the exception of a few players who still have a good year)

Quoting: Kaljjis
Pretty steep price for 1 year of EK.


lol I find it funny that some people still say that. I mean, nobody in their right mind will trade for Karlsson and pay the astronomic asking price if he doesn't come with an extension... of course

Having said that, I do agree with the premise... 2nd OA pick + Hanifin + Skinner + 2nd round pick is a steep price for pretty much anybody not named McDavid. I'd ask only for the 2nd OA pick and Hanifin for Karlsson (coming with an extension!!!)
 
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