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Created by: McPhee_Moustache
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 27, 2018
Published: Jun. 27, 2018
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I know the ANA deal is a long shot but its a different take
Free Agent Signings
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5$3,500,000
2$863,333
2$912,500
2$912,500
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
4$4,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Little, Bryan
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
2.
MTL
  1. Fowler, Cam
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Assumes MTL is on his trade list for the NMC
ANA
  1. Pacioretty, Max
Additional Details:
Assumes a 7 year $7M extension
Buried
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$74,317,142$0$607,500$5,182,858
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
$912,500$912,500
RW, C
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 3
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 8
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
UFA - 2
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 27, 2018 at 1:34 p.m.
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Bryan Little to MTL is interesting.
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Jun. 27, 2018 at 1:35 p.m.
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explain why winnipeg would do that
Jun. 27, 2018 at 1:38 p.m.
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explain why winnipeg would do that


...and why Anaheim would do that...
Jun. 27, 2018 at 1:39 p.m.
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explain why winnipeg would do that


Im not the maker of this post but I deffinitely see that this is shedding cap space, Winnipeg would love to have that 5.29.. AAV out of their cap space so they could use that money and cap space to sign guys they have to sign like Wheeler and Laine. But it would take more for MTL to get Little, he is cap dumb but still very good centerman
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Jun. 27, 2018 at 1:45 p.m.
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Little + 2nd round pick for SCHLEMKO. What are you smoking? i want some
Jun. 27, 2018 at 3:30 p.m.
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Im not the maker of this post but I deffinitely see that this is shedding cap space, Winnipeg would love to have that 5.29.. AAV out of their cap space so they could use that money and cap space to sign guys they have to sign like Wheeler and Laine. But it would take more for MTL to get Little, he is cap dumb but still very good centerman


That was exactly what I was thinking. I think the pieces could change but Little would definitely be the centrepiece. This is all pinned on Stastny getting signed by WPG.
Jun. 27, 2018 at 3:32 p.m.
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...and why Anaheim would do that...


I know it is a stretch. I was just trying to think out of the box for a Patches trade.
Jun. 27, 2018 at 3:36 p.m.
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I know it is a stretch. I was just trying to think out of the box for a Patches trade.


Out of the box would be taking a bad contract back to get a better prospect.

Fowler > Patches. Fowler is younger than Patches. Fowler as a top pairing dman is more valuable to Anaheim than Patches as a winger.

Nobody is giving you a top pairing guy, regardless of whether they get to extend him or not.
Jun. 27, 2018 at 3:42 p.m.
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Out of the box would be taking a bad contract back to get a better prospect.

Fowler > Patches. Fowler is younger than Patches. Fowler as a top pairing dman is more valuable to Anaheim than Patches as a winger.

Nobody is giving you a top pairing guy, regardless of whether they get to extend him or not.


Totally agree. (ANH might not be the right choice for this deal)

But I do think Patches could be traded for a top 2 LHD from some team if the extension was apart of the deal.
Jun. 27, 2018 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Im not the maker of this post but I deffinitely see that this is shedding cap space, Winnipeg would love to have that 5.29.. AAV out of their cap space so they could use that money and cap space to sign guys they have to sign like Wheeler and Laine. But it would take more for MTL to get Little, he is cap dumb but still very good centerman


But like he is saying little has negative value with that trade
Jun. 27, 2018 at 3:59 p.m.
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But like he is saying little has negative value with that trade


I wouldn't say that Little has negative value but if the Jets sign Stastny as there 2nd line C and then have to resign Trouba, Hellebuyck and Morrissey. That will eat up most of there caproom and would have Little being a $5M 3rd line C. So it is something to think about.

Schlemko is apart of the deal because I could see them trading Kulikov contract to also save money and he could fit into the 5-6 spot
Jun. 27, 2018 at 7:17 p.m.
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I wouldn't say that Little has negative value but if the Jets sign Stastny as there 2nd line C and then have to resign Trouba, Hellebuyck and Morrissey. That will eat up most of there caproom and would have Little being a $5M 3rd line C. So it is something to think about.

Schlemko is apart of the deal because I could see them trading Kulikov contract to also save money and he could fit into the 5-6 spot


Make it benn it makes more sense for winnipeg



I said little has quite a bit of value he could get a 2nd and a 3rd


so he and a 2nd = a cap dump ?
Jun. 27, 2018 at 7:23 p.m.
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...and why Anaheim would do that...


Patch is a better player

35+ goal scorers don't grow on trees

Pacioretty-Getzlaf-Rakell

for 1 year the ducks free up 2 mill cap space on top of their 13 thousand cap

Heck they could go for JT and trade patch or give up eaves and coglianio and picks for nothing

fowler has for his value a not to great contract

He is in his prime so there is no excuse to not be an elite d like he is supposed to be

So tell me why not
Jun. 27, 2018 at 9:36 p.m.
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Patch is a better player

35+ goal scorers don't grow on trees

Pacioretty-Getzlaf-Rakell

for 1 year the ducks free up 2 mill cap space on top of their 13 thousand cap

Heck they could go for JT and trade patch or give up eaves and coglianio and picks for nothing

fowler has for his value a not to great contract

He is in his prime so there is no excuse to not be an elite d like he is supposed to be

So tell me why not


Your Habs fan bias is showing...

Fun stat-
Player A)67 games: 37 pts.
Player B)64 games: 37 pts.

Not really sure who under-performed here? Fowler is an elite dman, and he's paid as such. Patches is a solid winger coming off the worst season of his career. You're not getting anything close to Fowler.
Jun. 27, 2018 at 10:42 p.m.
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Your Habs fan bias is showing...

Fun stat-
Player A)67 games: 37 pts.
Player B)64 games: 37 pts.

Not really sure who under-performed here? Fowler is an elite dman, and he's paid as such. Patches is a solid winger coming off the worst season of his career. You're not getting anything close to Fowler.


No he fowler is not and is a little overpaid

Patch is an elite winger coming off his worst season yes but he is still only 3 years older and is the better player

Look at werenski, povorov, rielly, letang, muzzin THEY ARE EVEN BETTER AND THEY ARE GOOD BUT LOOK AT DOUGHTY HAMILTON KARLSSON

think about how many players have had morer points than patch in the last 5 years
Jun. 27, 2018 at 10:42 p.m.
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Your Habs fan bias is showing...

Fun stat-
Player A)67 games: 37 pts.
Player B)64 games: 37 pts.

Not really sure who under-performed here? Fowler is an elite dman, and he's paid as such. Patches is a solid winger coming off the worst season of his career. You're not getting anything close to Fowler.


I don't really like patch I have no bias for him he has more value
Jun. 28, 2018 at 9:19 p.m.
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No he fowler is not and is a little overpaid

Patch is an elite winger coming off his worst season yes but he is still only 3 years older and is the better player

Look at werenski, povorov, rielly, letang, muzzin THEY ARE EVEN BETTER AND THEY ARE GOOD BUT LOOK AT DOUGHTY HAMILTON KARLSSON

think about how many players have had morer points than patch in the last 5 years


Have you ever actually watched a game that wasn't in the Eastern or Atlantic time zone? Nobody is saying Doughty or Karlsson is similar to Fowler. They're both up to be resigned next year, and they're both going to be paid $10+ mil. Fowler is making $6.5...that's a great contract for the way he plays. Have fun paying Shea Weber until all of us are dead and gone.
Jun. 29, 2018 at 9:26 a.m.
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Have you ever actually watched a game that wasn't in the Eastern or Atlantic time zone? Nobody is saying Doughty or Karlsson is similar to Fowler. They're both up to be resigned next year, and they're both going to be paid $10+ mil. Fowler is making $6.5...that's a great contract for the way he plays. Have fun paying Shea Weber until all of us are dead and gone.


Yes I have! Ok that rielly is paid less muzzin is paid less povorov probably will


look at how much you pay lindholm
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Have you ever actually watched a game that wasn't in the Eastern or Atlantic time zone? Nobody is saying Doughty or Karlsson is similar to Fowler. They're both up to be resigned next year, and they're both going to be paid $10+ mil. Fowler is making $6.5...that's a great contract for the way he plays. Have fun paying Shea Weber until all of us are dead and gone.
Jun. 29, 2018 at 9:32 a.m.
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Yes I have! Ok that rielly is paid less muzzin is paid less povorov probably will


look at how much you pay lindholm


Lindholm signed his extension right after his rookie contract was done. Fowler made $4 million/year on his first extension, which was for the seasons that Lindholm is currently getting paid $5.205 for.
Jun. 29, 2018 at 9:20 p.m.
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Lindholm signed his extension right after his rookie contract was done. Fowler made $4 million/year on his first extension, which was for the seasons that Lindholm is currently getting paid $5.205 for.


Either way I would only pay him 5.5 some have different opinions but patch IS BETTER AND HAS MORE VALUE
Jun. 30, 2018 at 11:22 a.m.
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Either way I would only pay him 5.5 some have different opinions but patch IS BETTER AND HAS MORE VALUE


But instead, you're going to have Weber's cap hit until the end of time, because you're GM is an idiot and your team is a dumpster fire.

Take a poll and see how many people would rather have Patches than Fowler after last season. Career worst season + season ending knee injury. I can smell the value from over here!
Jun. 30, 2018 at 4:54 p.m.
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But instead, you're going to have Weber's cap hit until the end of time, because you're GM is an idiot and your team is a dumpster fire.

Take a poll and see how many people would rather have Patches than Fowler after last season. Career worst season + season ending knee injury. I can smell the value from over here!


the first is right

and I will sure
 
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