no bad contracst yet you just overpaid nylander ?

Just wait till he scores 70+ points this season and more the year after and then averages 80+ for the next 5-7 years. Then everyone will be saying,"Its a damn good thing we signed him long term, he would have asked for 10 million a year if we went short term."

Nathan Horton? Idc if you use LTIR, he's still a bad contract

that nmc ntc and not being able to buy out a plus 35 player in marleau doesn't seem like a good contract.

Terrible contract but since he will never play hockey again, its a LTIR contract that TO has the deep pockets to keep paying. It won't count against the cap.

He scores nearly 30 goals and 50 points. He's not a bad contract. It would be more convenient if it was a 2 year deal but its not terrible.

wait till the 3rd year when ur in cap hell. that contract is gonna bite

He'll still be putting up nearly 30 goals, so its not without value. Yes that will be a tough year and will mean the Leafs have to go real cheap and young in some areas but after next year, they will be set for a decade.

Nylander, in a 79.5 million dollar cap world, is probably a 7 million dollar player. His comparables, like Ehlers in Winnipeg, signed 6 million dollar deals when the cap was lower, but their percentage of the cap are nearly equivalent. People forget that salaries are RELATIVE to the salary cap, so stop thinking that there is a permanent point/production value attached to a salary signed in the past.

Ummmmm Zaitsev....

wouldn't pay him more then Ehlers.

I went a little higher just to be conservative but I agree I think 7x8 is Nylander inked.

He can play centre and has scored more points per game than Elhers who is strictly a winger.

Zaitsev is a good player, he was great in year one and started off even better last season before he broke his foot and then got sick to the point he lost 25 pounds. He struggled when he returned but who wouldn't! He lost more than 10% of his body weight! He'll bounce back this year, especially if he plays with Dermott, those two were dynamite together.

Looked dynamite in playoffs too......

Yes and no. Ehlers deal kicks in this year so the cap argument is moot. Ehlers is more of a goal scorer which typically equates to more dollars as well.

I'd be happy with Nylander at $6M for 6 to 8 years.

That contract may in fact help keep the RFAs on value deals with term.

Unless Kadri gets dealt, Nylander will only see spot duty at center. Over the last 2 years, where both Ehlers and Nylander have played full seasons, Ehlers has outscored Nylander by an average of 6 goals and 2 points per year.

Ehlers at 7 x 6M seems like a slam dunk for Nylander.

He'll get at least Elhers money but it will go up likely by 500K each year you add to it. So 6x6 6.5x7 or 7x8. If we look long term, going 8 years is the best idea, it gets Nylander inked to his 30th birthday and that will give TO a lot of negotiating power to either lower the term on his next deal since he's in his 30's or really lower the cap hit on a longer term deal to account for declining production.

He has scored more goals yes but has scored 2 more points total in those to years and honestly I don't care. Nylander and Elhers are basically the same. The only difference is that I am sure the Leafs are smart enough to understand the value of long term cost certainty and therefor will add another year of term which will likely cost anywhere from half a mill to a million.

A couple of points is nothing but 12 goals is something that the Leafs may well bring up when negotiating.
I believe 7 years at 6M per is the most he will get and given the cap concerns, that extra million per for an extra year, like you suggest, is money better spent elsewhere.

I wouldn't be heart broken over a 7 year deal at 6 million but I just don't see it happening. I will say in regards to goals, Nylander had bad luck last year to start the season and if he had better luck, he would have scored a lot more goals. His advanced stats say he was the same level of effectiveness all year but his shooting percentage was really low in the first few months. He should have score closer to 30 goals and 70 points. A full year with Matthews would help as well. I see Nylander being an 80 point 30 goal scorer in the very near future and if he gets that on a bridge deal, good luck signing him for less than 9-11 million. I'd much rather get the cost certainty of an 8 year deal. That will give us way more flexibility 3-5 years from now when guys like Reilly, Kadri and Anderson are up for new deals.

If they added a stronger left winger on that line, 80 points could be just scratching the surface. Johnsson could be that guy, I like the Ennis pick up too. Hell, even Leivo could put up 60 points playing with Matthews and Nylander.

Hyman can score 60 points playing with Matthews and Nylander and he gets them the puck all the time. I don't know why people have such a problem with Hyman. Yeah he has stone hands but he gets the job done and is good defensively and is an amazing penalty killer. Matthews if he stays healthy for the full year could score 50+ goals with Nylander feeding him the puck.

I like Leivo. He is more skilled than Hyman but Hyman is a great depth player. He'd make a good centre if he could win more draws.