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Created by: littlejerryseinfeld
Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2018
Published: Aug. 9, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,850,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. 2020 4th round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Larsson, Johan
2.
BUF
  1. Ellis, Ryan
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It's going to be impossible to keep the big 4 together
NSH
  1. Borgen, William
  2. McCabe, Jake
  3. 2019 1st round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
Sabres sign Ellis to 8x6.5
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$76,007,024$0$4,095,000$3,492,976
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Sheary, Conor
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 8
Thompson, Tage
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
UFA - 2
Skinner, Jeff
$5,725,000$5,725,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Mittelstadt, Casey
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Reinhart, Sam
$4,850,000$4,850,000
RW
UFA - 2
Sobotka, Vladimír
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Berglund, Patrik
$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Wilson, Scott
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 2
Rodrigues, Evan
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Pominville, Jason
$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Girgensons, Zemgus
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Ellis, Ryan
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
Scandella, Marco
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
Ullmark, Linus
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Guhle, Brendan
$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD
UFA - 2
Bogosian, Zach
$5,142,857$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 2
Hunwick, Matt
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
Beaulieu, Nathan
$2,400,000$2,400,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 9, 2018 at 12:42 p.m.
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You are welcome to Ellis... please send Skinner+
Aug. 9, 2018 at 12:43 p.m.
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boyd1212
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Why would the Preds accept this? McCabe is fine, but Ellis is far and away better. Plus if we assume the Sabres are going to take a significant step forward with a roster now including Skinner, Ellis and Hutton then the value of that 1st round pick plummets.

Have to remember... The Preds are in the middle of a Cup window. Any trade won't be to take a step backwards.
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Aug. 9, 2018 at 12:48 p.m.
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Why would the Preds accept this? McCabe is fine, but Ellis is far and away better. Plus if we assume the Sabres are going to take a significant step forward with a roster now including Skinner, Ellis and Hutton then the value of that 1st round pick plummets.

Have to remember... The Preds are in the middle of a Cup window. Any trade won't be to take a step backwards.


Quoting: John_Doe7285
You are welcome to Ellis... please send Skinner+


Alright then lose him to FA for nothing. Sabres can just sign him then without giving up a 1st and young roster players/prospects.
Aug. 9, 2018 at 1:03 p.m.
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If Ellis would sign for 8x6.5 his contract with the Preds would be done months ago. Even with the lower state tax he wants more than that. My guess is that his ask is around 7.8 per year. The most I would give him is 6.8 mil per year and that is only recognizing that the cap is going up and he has been underpaid for the last few years.
Aug. 9, 2018 at 1:09 p.m.
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boyd1212
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Quoting: wojme
Alright then lose him to FA for nothing. Sabres can just sign him then without giving up a 1st and young roster players/prospects.


So the only option is to make a bad trade or lose him as an FA? He could still re-sign any day.

I agree that one of the top 4 will have to go but there's no need to rush into a trade that doesn't help this current team win a Cup within their 3-5 year window.
Aug. 9, 2018 at 1:12 p.m.
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boyd1212
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Quoting: th0117
If Ellis would sign for 8x6.5 his contract with the Preds would be done months ago. Even with the lower state tax he wants more than that. My guess is that his ask is around 7.8 per year. The most I would give him is 6.8 mil per year and that is only recognizing that the cap is going up and he has been underpaid for the last few years.


Most around Nashville media (not assuming where you live) think Ellis is asking somewhere 7-7.5 which looks pretty close on market value. Anything under 7 is probably a bit of a bargain.

I have no issue with trading Ellis (although trading Josi may be the smarter long term move) but it has to enhance the current roster where the true need is another big time scorer.
Aug. 9, 2018 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: boyd1212
Most around Nashville media (not assuming where you live) think Ellis is asking somewhere 7-7.5 which looks pretty close on market value. Anything under 7 is probably a bit of a bargain.

I have no issue with trading Ellis (although trading Josi may be the smarter long term move) but it has to enhance the current roster where the true need is another big time scorer.


I live in Nashville and haven't seen those numbers though I don't follow all of the fan blogs. I think the McDonough extension (6.75 per) is the exact comparable Ellis should be looking at and anything more is an overpay.
Aug. 9, 2018 at 1:22 p.m.
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boyd1212
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Quoting: th0117
I live in Nashville and haven't seen those numbers though I don't follow all of the fan blogs. I think the McDonough extension (6.75 per) is the exact comparable Ellis should be looking at and anything more is an overpay.


Agree the McDonagh extension is a pretty solid comparable. Given Ellis' offensive capability (11th among all D with 0.73 PPG last season, tied with Doughty/Jones and just ahead of Subban/Josi) he might can command a bit more.
Aug. 9, 2018 at 1:55 p.m.
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littlejerryseinfeld
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Quoting: th0117
If Ellis would sign for 8x6.5 his contract with the Preds would be done months ago. Even with the lower state tax he wants more than that. My guess is that his ask is around 7.8 per year. The most I would give him is 6.8 mil per year and that is only recognizing that the cap is going up and he has been underpaid for the last few years.


If the predators give him that they will have to trade josi or subban
Aug. 9, 2018 at 2:03 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
If the predators give him that they will have to trade josi or subban


Distinct possibility. The argument could be made that trading Josi would actually be the smarter roster move.
Aug. 9, 2018 at 11:33 p.m.
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Why is Josi the smarter option to move? A couple have posted that now.

The guy is a beast and his numbers are wayyyy better than Ellis and McDonagh.
 
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