The trade would fail on that retaining part. OTT will not retain on anything except Phaneuf just because they had to get rid of him.

Is Eeli Tolvanen the difference between Karlsson and Subban? I don’t think so, especially from Nashville’s perspective.

If it gets you the big return I think you retain. They can have up to 3 so if they retain on Subban and the leafs fif him in Ottawa can load up with good young players from Toronto.
I'm Biased because I would love to see it happen. But I think it's a fair package.
You also give cap instead of Johnsson because Johnsson is one of the few left shot wingers they have

Is tolvenan worth an extra Norris trophy. I think Karlsson has more than PK.
Also EK
518 points in 627 games

Pk
377 points in 582

Now one was on a team with Carey Price while the other scored more but common Karlsson is younger and better.
I think this is fair.
Erik would love it too because he doenst have to do it all alone.

Please stop with all of these stupid trades. These other teams aren’t here to bend and twist to what you think your team needs.... which you s certainly not subban. You are making every leafs fan look stupid by putting up these idoiotic trades.

? I just hope something exciting happens.
It's not every year a top 3 player in the world is just dangled from team to team.
Look how nuts the NBA, a league where players move all the time, a top 5 player was moved.
That literally never happens.
If you are the Preds you have got to the final and never had a top 5 player in the world. Pit had 2 you had 0. Cavs had Lebron the Raps weren't close.
If Nashvilles almost immaculate team of stars everywhere could add peak EK, if they played the pens again they would win.

Remember when it took the pens 6 games against 1C Calle Jarnkrok.
Remember when 2 years ago Ottawa was in game 7 because ok EK. They are out in round without EK.
Karlsson Turris get to play with Johanson Josi Arvidsson Forsberg Ellis, that team would be nuts.
They lose PK but replace him with a younger more dominant version.
Then PK I make my brand.
Send me home to my brother and best friend JT
Imagine a team with Kadri Tavares PK, all Toronto buddies, they would destroy.
Or PK goes to Vegas and does the same.
I just try to make logical connections man. These connections are both very logical. He got backstabbed once. He is picking his destination this time Ottawa says you pick where you want to compete for a cup. Last years cup finalists Vegas or this years Toronto. They are both the right choice. Ottawa makes 2 teams better and gets rewarded twice.

PK is a turnover machine... as unpopular as this opinion is I think he is garbage.

How did karlsson make out in the playoffs last year???

We got our big ufa we can not afford anyone else. The good news is that we have been drafting and developing really well and our defence will continue to improve. 11th overall last year in goals against was pretty good and we will be in the top 10 this season.

These trades for stud Dmen ruin our team and cap. We can develop them in our own system.

Agreed man
"We have a 5 year plan that changes every day"
Only is sens retain, let's make taht clear. You have a player in that spot who can bridge for Tim. And its only a 4 year deal if Sens make it a 5. In 4 year when Timmy wants 3.5 PK might take 8 while Morgan takes 8 5.
Pk can work with Nikita and Liljegren where suddenly a weakness is now a strength.
So Kap is gone. I love him too, but he caps on the 3rd line. 2020 this is their team.

I'm assuming Marleau retires with 2 cups of he did come back it iukd be for 1m.

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Lindholm-Kadri-Bracco Brown expansion draft.
Grundstrom-Brooks-Ennis
Korskov-Marchment

Reilly-Liljegren
Dermott-Subban
Sandin-Zaitsev (or Zaitsev taken and Brown stays)
Ozzi-Holl-Rosen

Freddy
Sparks

I think I make that trade.

Where is Seguin ?

The money is no where close to perfect... you didn’t sign kapanen because you couldn’t afford him. You undercut Ozhiganov, sparks and Johnson. You have to keep Horus, Ennis, holl and Jordan because they are the only players you can afford on your roster. In your scenario that brown goes you have an extra 2m to explain away. You also gave away our draft steal liljegren.

Trade makes no sense for Nashville. After all that the last thing the leafs need is another offensive Dman. This trade fails on every level. I’ll keep liljegren and keep building the team into the future. This whole Brian Burke sell the future for the right now doesn’t work.

Kap is on the sens ?
Gardnier and Kap for Subban, then they can flip Jake to a team who needs a lefty.
Watxh out of might happen. The Duchene trade but with 1 more team!
No need to switch Timmy if you give up Jake because he is worth a pick and prospect from another team
Nash gets EK and gets batter
Leafs get PK and get better
Someone gets Jake at the deadline a d makes a run
Look at Jake's stats compared to shattenkirk. He is a better player. Ottawa helps 3 teams and looks to get tolvanen, Kapanen and maybe a first.
Then you trade Jake for a first and a pick.
Suddenly you have a line of prospects and 2 firsts.
Is that a fair trade for a top 5 player in the league.
Imagine San Anotonio switch DeMar for picks and prospects.

J think when stars get traded you need more than 1 team
Colorado got Girard from Nashville and the picks from Ottawa. More teams more returns.

I cant predict who every trade will be with. But we know the pieces Ottawa needs to move.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/849727