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Created by: SirCharles
Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2018
Published: Oct. 13, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
If a RFA signs after the season starts, how is their cap hit calculated?
When a restricted free agent signs a contract after the NHL season has already begun, their cap hit for the first year is greater than the contracts annual average, and similarly the cap hit of the remaining years is less than that of the annual average.

A notable aspect of the following calculation is that the sum of the cap hit values is greater than if the contract was signed before season start (and used the normal AAV calculation; monetary value of the contract divided by the total years)

The cap hit of the years after the first year of the contract is calculated first:
Cap hit after the first year = (First year salary * season days remaining / total season days + contract value remaining) / contract years

The first years cap hit is then calculated:
First years cap hit = cap hit after the first year * total season days / season days remaining

Example:
Hampus Lindholm of the Anaheim Ducks signed a $31,500,000 contract on Oct 27, 2016 in the 2016-17 season. There were 164 days remaining in the season on this date. The contract break down was as follows:
2016-17: $3,000,000
2017-18: $6,000,000
2018-19: $6,750,000
2019-20: $5,250,000
2020-21: $3,750,000
2021-22: $6,750,000
Total: $31,500,000
Annual Average: $5,250,000

The cap hit values are calculated as follows:
Cap hit (2017-18 to 2021-2022) = ($3,000,000 * 164 / 180 + $28,500,000) / 6 = $5,205,556
Cap hit (2016-17) = $5,205,556 * 180 / 164 = $5,713,415

The cap hit breakdown is therefore as follows:
2016-17: $5,713,415
2017-18: $5,205,556
2018-19: $5,205,556
2019-20: $5,205,556
2020-21: $5,205,556
2021-22: $5,205,556
Total: $31,741,294
Average: $5,290,216

So, in short if the Leafs wait until December 1st to sign Willy hiscap hit will be greater this year then the rest of the years in his contract which would fit the Leafs Cap needs perfectly.
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2018
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$79,500,000$67,283,333$2,550,000$5,400,000$12,216,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
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UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
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$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 2
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$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 13, 2018 at 12:01 p.m.
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Bcarlo25
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ya, so this is wrong. First off, Nylander doesn't care what his cap hit is, he cares about how much money he gets, so what's his motivation for this? He loses money by holding out under your scenario, so that's a hard no.
The cap hit is the cap hit is the cap hit. It doesn't change from year to year. What you're seeing is that when an RFA holds out and signs after the season starts, the team is penalized with a cap hit of 30K per day that he does not signed (if he eventually signs, if he doesn't no penalty)
This is why you're seeing a bigger cap hit for year one in other deals.
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Oct. 13, 2018 at 1:15 p.m.
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So the Ducks saved 45,000 a year in cap by having Lindholm signing late. So even if the Leafs and Nylander have this grand scheme on Wiliie signing December 1, the Leafs would save what 100,000 a year cap hit, from year 2 to year 6 or so. 100,000 meaningless with a 83m cap hit next year.
I like conspiracy theories....it makes for good fantasy, but let's talk about something real.....like did the Americans every really land on the moon, or who shot JFK.
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Oct. 13, 2018 at 10:30 p.m.
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Nylander hold out a ruse? Read the description.
is the way it was supposed to read,with the "?" this is more of a discussion piece then what I really think.
What I really think is Nylander will be traded but that's a different discussion.
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Oct. 14, 2018 at 5:59 a.m.
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500k doesn't mean crap.

This team has real problems going forward. Signing JT was a bad move. Not necessarily for the talent level on the ice. But for the team in general. It doesn't help he popped off at the jaw with some crap about "stay true to who you are" while the team in general runs it's mouth with an attitude of players should take less to win. Which is what prompted responses from Matthews like "that's why we have agents"

You had a young core here in Matthews, Nylander, Marner who took a bottom feeder team and turned it into a contender. Then they decided to pay out big bucks to a player who had nothing to do with turning this team around while trying to low ball the young core who did. How you think that works in a locker room? You think this year is bad, wait till next. Matthews is gonna want his 13 million, and if they are cheap with him he'll be next. Him and Marner are both looking at what is going on with Nylander and Matthews words were basically we stick with our boy, he helped get us here.

There is more to building a solid team then just talent level on the ice. You have to keep a team together and actually caring. You got an owner making huge money on this team acting like it's ok to low ball the players that made them relevant again. They ain't having none of it. Nor should they.

This is why the Penguins didn't sign big name players when Crosby, Malkin, Letang, and MAF were coming out of their rookie deal. They instead tried to keep as much of that core together as they could instead of looking at the outside. Because once you start throwing that money around you better start expecting your players to have the hand out too. The pens paid them their worth and when they couldn't they traded Staal out. They just couldn't afford him.

Toronto had a solid young core all about the same age. I'm pretty sure that's about to be gone. One of those players is out. It maybe more with the Organizations attitude. Who wants to work for a boss who has an attitude of your lucky to have a job or you should take less money while I make more. Screw that, and screw them.
 
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