i think matthews will get more like 11 million

Too much on kappy nylander and marner not enough to the other guys. Matthews May or may not be to high.

Why are the Leafs in cap trouble ? Trouble with cap is when teams have too many bad value contracts, or are carrying retention on contracts or are carrying money on buyouts. Leafs don't have much bad money, especially compared to some other clubs. So if the Leafs have their good players signed to good contracts, and they are still going over the cap, then it's matter of trading a good player for good value How is that trouble?

But 20 goal scorer Nylander isn't getting 7.6m which would that make a top 5 paid RWer....Now that would create cap trouble. He certainly isn't getting that money from Leafs...maybe any team. Even Marner isn't going to get paid top 3 RW money. Kapanen seems high too. Oh, and the cap will be about 83m next year.

Honestly, palhal, besides Rielly in the above, that d looks very suspect, doesn’t it? This season, with Gardiner and Hainsey along with a dynamic forward group minus Nylander, Toronto is on a torrid scoring pace and could maintain 5 goals per game all year, IMO and seriously contend for the Cup! Next year, with Willy but nilly on defense, they might have to score 6-7 goals a night to win but might not be as complete of a team. Just saying...

Replace Holl with liljegren and it looks a whole lot better. Will be either Borgman Rosen or sandin on the bottom left. 3 of the top 4 are playing really well this year in the nhl and liljegren is still developing playing top minutes for the marlies. We should be fine... that D looks better just because hainsey is gone lol.

It may be a good problem to have or be in, talent-wise, but that’s asking an awful lot for that many real young defensemen, IMO.

Liljegren will be the only really young one and have the least amount of experience but yes in order for things to work without making any moves liljegren will need to be good. We are banking on it and he hasn’t given us any reason to doubt it so far.

Hi Graderman. How's your mum? This suspect defence is getting to be kinda silly at this site. Last year, despite having the 12th best GAA...yea kinda average, folks complained about the Leafs allowing too many shots...fifth most in the league. Now that the Leafs have allowed 13 most shots per game.....year kinda average, I haven't heard one Leaf hater....saying that's an improvement.
Even last year, Leafs had the identical GAA as Washington....oh they won the Cup,.
Reilly is playing well...very well. Dermot is playing well. Zaitsev good, Ozzie in last two games....in a new league has played well. Hainsey despite a lot of questionable complaints, 6 points and a plus 7. No I don't the Leafs defence is suspect Yes I would like improvement but geez, wouldn't most teams? And the last two games....2 goals and a win in Washington, and last game 1 goal against LA with Sparks in net. And all folks want to talk about is that the Leafs scored four goals in each of those two games....and they won't be able to keep up that pace.

But on my original post, I was commenting that the Leafs have the ability to sign all their stars. Now if the have to trade one to strengthen another area....maybe for a defenceman, it's possible to do if you have players signed to reasonable contracts. But isn't that the same what all teams are trying to achieve? Having as many good players on good contracts and then finding the mix to make your roster is how all teams want to make their rosters.

I don't know why you would even think the Leafs defence would be worse next year than this year. Sure Gardiner and Hainsey will be gone, but they can replaced either internally or by acquisitions.

You bet. He was a steal at 1-17 in ‘17!

Yup a little bit of mono really helped the leafs out that year... he was being projected to go in top 10 and some had him in the top 5 before he got sick.

Too bad Sandin....first round pick in 2018 is out with an injury right now. Would have liked see him the AHL at least to start the season.

You would certainly know much better than me, an outsider to a team on the cusp of, perhaps, Cups (?). Babcock has a way with getting a ton out of his teams, that, I think, we could agree on. And the, yes, the “young” dmen (Jamiepo!) will be a year older next season and could all gel very nicely! One puck, lots of egos is what Shanahan preached earlier to his upcoming RFAs when “they” wanted their piece of the pie. Toronto has not been timid in this rebuild of theirs. They have made lots of great decisions leading up to this juncture. I have no doubt they will continue to follow their blueprint, continuing to make tough choices relatively flawlessly. As a Hawks fan, despite their unexpected good start, I am envious of you all in hockey Mecca!

So many ppl seem actually afraid TML could finally make it, signing "Big 3" and push it to Stanley ( my stance on D is known tho )

And the current hype on Kapanen....he will be rolled back to 3rd line after 3 more games when Nylander comes, i dont think TML are that stupid to allow another kid to explode on the verge of signing a new contract...so he will get Hyman's type of contract tops. Put a 500g box of Oreo infront of net and Marleau - Matthews will make it to mass 20 points in 82 games.

Btw....Ritchie just signed....3 x 1,5M....big steal

He’s due back in a couple of weeks. Chances are he will need two seasons down there but you never know.

Nylander is the first line rw... not kapanen calm down with him.. hes good but he isnt william nylander .

Way to show the Leafs aren't in as big of a cap crunch as people think. ? you overpayed everyone. And didn't move up the cap.

1 star for being COMPLETELY wrong. Lol

Yea, I wouldn't depend on him next year either to be a Leafs. Interesting that it looks like the Leafs for two consecutive years are having junior aged Dmen playing in the AHL.

I really think the unexpected 11m signing of Tavares has affected the so called Shanaplan. Maybe the the plan for the Cup parade has moved up in time. But the "plan" shouldn't be any different than all teams. Draft well, develop well, don't overpay your players." The big factor that seems to lost in the talk, is that the Leafs is now a great place to be which helped the Leafs sign European UFAs,,,,Zaitsev, Ozhigkov, Lindholm, Borgman, and Rosen, and of course UFA Tavares. As a hockey fan, Toronto has always been sorta a Mecca of hockey, but sure is nice having your team playing so well too.
You mentioned your Hawks. From an outsiders view, it seems like the Hawks have too many players not living up their contracts. Not that many players and not for a great amount of money per player, but it does add up into the cap restraints which makes personnel moves difficult. Thinking the Hawks are going to ride out these contracts, and continue a reset, and then will be a position to make another run. Chicago is one of the more desirable players to live/play in the league, so attracting UFAs either European or NHLers should be cost efficient.