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NSH trade part twoyear two

Created by: Yinz3r
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 26, 2018
Published: Oct. 26, 2018
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(see part one if you haven't)| Brassard and duchene like the winning tradition in pittsburgh and decide to take a discount. a million or two less than they possibly could get in FA, for more term and more chances to win cups.| pens would also need to rely on a few rookies to step up deja vu? **cough cough, sheary, Rust, Kuhnhackl, wilson, murray, cough cough** but instead it's ZAR, Johnson , and Blueger. Johnson brings elite speed to make up for the subtraction of hagelin, ZAR is a gritty two way winger, Blueger is probably the most skilled overall out of the rookies mentioned. has puck skills and can play wing or center.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$825,000
3$825,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$5,000,000
2$800,000
3$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
3$875,000
4$2,200,000
7$5,500,000
2$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
6$4,400,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Subban, P.K.
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Colton Sissons
2.
PIT
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Duchene
OTT
  1. Sprong, Daniel
Additional Details:
2019 first round pick
3.
PIT
  1. 2019 6th round pick (WSH)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Granlund
4.
PIT
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (CBJ)
MTL
    Rights to Sissons + 2019 4th round pick | Trade at 2019 draft
    5.
    PIT
    1. 2019 3rd round pick (LAK)
    2. 2019 6th round pick (LAK)
    LAK
    1. Simon, Dominik
    Additional Details:
    rights to Granlund + 2019 5th round pick| Trade at 2019 Draft
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2019
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    2020
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    Logo of the VAN
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    2021
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    2022
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,000,000$82,395,000$132,500$0$605,000
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,400,000$4,400,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $700,000$700,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $6,800,000$6,800,000
    RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $700,000$700,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $800,000$800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $700,000$700,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Nashville Predators
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,137,500$2,137,500
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $875,000$875,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    $700,000$700,000
    C, LW
    UFA
    $700,000$700,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Oct. 26, 2018 at 7:26 p.m.
    #1
    Who adds what?
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    All things being equal, you don't trade a #1 defenseman for a #2 center. Subban is three years younger, and since 2011 he's played 70+ games in four more seasons than Malkin. When healthy, Malkin gets more points, but Subban played the fewest offensive zone starts of the top ten defensemen in points last year. He's a factor in all zones of every game.

    If you add together all the pieces you're trading away: Malkin, Maatta, Sprong, and a 1st, I think you could get Nashville to part with P.K. Subban. And then you could certainly sign a UFA to play 2C next summer.

    If you just really need a good defenseman to weather the injury to Schultz, there are other guys out there. Don't panic. But I think Subban pretty much retires in Nashville.
    Oct. 26, 2018 at 8:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eli
    All things being equal, you don't trade a #1 defenseman for a #2 center. Subban is three years younger, and since 2011 he's played 70+ games in four more seasons than Malkin. When healthy, Malkin gets more points, but Subban played the fewest offensive zone starts of the top ten defensemen in points last year. He's a factor in all zones of every game.

    If you add together all the pieces you're trading away: Malkin, Maatta, Sprong, and a 1st, I think you could get Nashville to part with P.K. Subban. And then you could certainly sign a UFA to play 2C next summer.

    If you just really need a good defenseman to weather the injury to Schultz, there are other guys out there. Don't panic. But I think Subban pretty much retires in Nashville.


    I agree with you that the trade isn’t perfect but I think we can all agree that there’s probably 5 or less teams that Malkin is the #2 center
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    Oct. 26, 2018 at 8:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eli
    All things being equal, you don't trade a #1 defenseman for a #2 center. Subban is three years younger, and since 2011 he's played 70+ games in four more seasons than Malkin. When healthy, Malkin gets more points, but Subban played the fewest offensive zone starts of the top ten defensemen in points last year. He's a factor in all zones of every game.

    If you add together all the pieces you're trading away: Malkin, Maatta, Sprong, and a 1st, I think you could get Nashville to part with P.K. Subban. And then you could certainly sign a UFA to play 2C next summer.

    If you just really need a good defenseman to weather the injury to Schultz, there are other guys out there. Don't panic. But I think Subban pretty much retires in Nashville.


    ……..Nashville would be the ones who have to add more to subban to get malkin, its not even close, at least an extra player and probably a 1st. Malkin is a number 1 center on at least 28 teams, he just happens to play on the one that has the best player in the entire league, but overall malkin is still a top 5 center.
    Oct. 27, 2018 at 1:39 a.m.
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    No way Duchene gets a pay cut lol. He will probably get around 7.5

    I will say as a Nashville fan I love it haha. If that offer or hell even Subban+ was legitimately offered by Pitt, Subban would be gone. Moving Subban is hard for so many reasons.
    How about Subban, Turris for Malkin, Maatta? I know Pens fans want to trade Maatta maybe this works for both teams? Maybe Preds add a pick I'm not sure?
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    Oct. 27, 2018 at 4:21 p.m.
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    No way Duchene gets a pay cut lol. He will probably get around 7.5

    I will say as a Nashville fan I love it haha. If that offer or hell even Subban+ was legitimately offered by Pitt, Subban would be gone. Moving Subban is hard for so many reasons.
    How about Subban, Turris for Malkin, Maatta? I know Pens fans want to trade Maatta maybe this works for both teams? Maybe Preds add a pick I'm not sure?


    i definitely don't think either PK or geno should be traded but if they had to be traded i think that would be a pretty fair trade for both teams. Malkin > turris / Subban > Maatta so it kind of balances out. maybe preds add a mid round pick like a 3rd or maybe a conditional pick of some kind
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    Oct. 27, 2018 at 4:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eli
    All things being equal, you don't trade a #1 defenseman for a #2 center. Subban is three years younger, and since 2011 he's played 70+ games in four more seasons than Malkin. When healthy, Malkin gets more points, but Subban played the fewest offensive zone starts of the top ten defensemen in points last year. He's a factor in all zones of every game.

    If you add together all the pieces you're trading away: Malkin, Maatta, Sprong, and a 1st, I think you could get Nashville to part with P.K. Subban. And then you could certainly sign a UFA to play 2C next summer.

    If you just really need a good defenseman to weather the injury to Schultz, there are other guys out there. Don't panic. But I think Subban pretty much retires in Nashville.


    this wasn't in result to schultz going down, pens have been ok thus far w out him. this was just a spur of the moment idea, exploring what the pens would look like without malkin and with PK. i don't want Geno traded but if he wanted to go somewhere and be the number 1 guy (he already said he would rather play with sid so this is all hypothetical) i think preds would be the best option, they'd be getting quality back instead of just future unknowns. also i don't think that this hypothetical trade would be the exact deal that i had but it would be the foundation of the deal. picks/roster players can be added ect to balance the value
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    Oct. 29, 2018 at 11:21 p.m.
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    Let's go Pens!
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    As a Pens fan, I'm not interested at all to see Geno traded to get Subban. No way! We got 3 cups tks to the best duo of the league: He and Sid. And with him we'll have much more chance to win another one. Besides, Letang is healthy for the first time in so many time and he's having a very good early season. So, we pass...

    PS: We all know that this trade will never happen in real life.
    Oct. 30, 2018 at 4:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
    As a Pens fan, I'm not interested at all to see Geno traded to get Subban. No way! We got 3 cups tks to the best duo of the league: He and Sid. And with him we'll have much more chance to win another one. Besides, Letang is healthy for the first time in so many time and he's having a very good early season. So, we pass...

    PS: We all know that this trade will never happen in real life.


    i'm a pens fan... obviously i know the trade wouldn't happen. doesn't mean i can't explore the idea of it
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    Oct. 31, 2018 at 10:40 p.m.
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    Let's go Pens!
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    Quoting: Yinz3r
    i'm a pens fan... obviously i know the trade wouldn't happen. doesn't mean i can't explore the idea of it


    I've never said you couldn't. Of course you can. It's just an observation. Easy, man.
     
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