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Its time to bank another 1st rounder

Created by: franky_22
Team: 2018-19 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 26, 2018
Published: Nov. 27, 2018
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Take advantage of the fact that Holmgren wants a goalie before hiring a new GM (and probably a new coach too).

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1664510/flyers-open-to-boosting-goaltending-before-hiring-new-gm

So let's swap Varly to PHI for a 1st and Elliott.
If you can have a 1st round pick for him, you have to take it. You already have Grubauer signed at $ 3,33M and he can do the job. Elliott will be the perfect backup when he's back from his injury. Let's take a look at Francouz in the meantime.

Here's the lineup tonight vs. Preds. Barrie and Elliott injured (day-to-day). Dries and Kamenev scratches.

2019 Entry Draft:
#3 (OTT pick) : C Kirby Dach
#7 (PHI pick) : LHD Philip Broberg
#24 (COL pick) RW Arthur Kaliyev
Trades
COL
  1. Elliott, Brian
  2. 2019 1st round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Varlamov, Semyon ($2,950,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$65,298,928$0$2,195,000$14,201,072
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 2
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,975,000$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,937,500$3,937,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 3
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$690,000$690,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$833,333$833,333
C
RFA - 1

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Nov. 27, 2018 at 4:53 p.m.
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I am not sure the Flyers are that desperate yet. Even if that 1st of theirs is top-10 protected, which I imagine would be the case, I don't see the Flyers being any good for a while, so that 1st, like what happened with Ottawa, could become an extremely high pick.
Nov. 27, 2018 at 5:17 p.m.
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I think its a pretty even deal for both sides, but i think PHI would want to make the 1st rounder top 10 protected just in case
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Nov. 27, 2018 at 5:30 p.m.
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So you're saying they should trade you their first pick for a goalie who, in your opinion, won't get them close to the playoffs, who will be a UFA next summer? I don't understand. What's their motivation?
Nov. 28, 2018 at 2:18 p.m.
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So you're saying they should trade you their first pick for a goalie who, in your opinion, won't get them close to the playoffs, who will be a UFA next summer? I don't understand. What's their motivation?


Paul Holmgren says it and everyone knows it: Flyers goaltending is actually pretty bad 3.58 GAA (29th) .879 SV% (31st) Varlamov : 2.32 GAA (8th) .927 SV% (6th) I don't know if Varly can bring the Flyers in the playoffs but he can certainly bring them closer. Just by making the difference in the tight games. Philly have approx. 7 games lost by one goal so far this season. It's the difference between being in the playoffs picture or not at this stage. Their motivation (Homlgren and the owners) is : Try to save the season while there may still be a chance to do it. The reason why they fired Hextall is not complicated. They don't want to be patient anymore. They want to win now and Hextall didn't want to deviate from his long term construction plan. We'll see what it will give in the future but I think that the Flyers will start making trades soon in order to improve now.
Nov. 28, 2018 at 2:48 p.m.
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Paul Holmgren says it and everyone knows it: Flyers goaltending is actually pretty bad 3.58 GAA (29th) .879 SV% (31st) Varlamov : 2.32 GAA (8th) .927 SV% (6th) I don't know if Varly can bring the Flyers in the playoffs but he can certainly bring them closer. Just by making the difference in the tight games. Philly have approx. 7 games lost by one goal so far this season. It's the difference between being in the playoffs picture or not at this stage. Their motivation (Homlgren and the owners) is : Try to save the season while there may still be a chance to do it. The reason why they fired Hextall is not complicated. They don't want to be patient anymore. They want to win now and Hextall didn't want to deviate from his long term construction plan. We'll see what it will give in the future but I think that the Flyers will start making trades soon in order to improve now.


Varlamov was slightly better than Neuvirth in Washington. Has done well since. He could be an improvement in net. Sure.

But in your description you wrote:
"2019 Entry Draft:
#3 (OTT pick) : C Kirby Dach
#7 (PHI pick) : LHD Philip Broberg
#24 (COL pick) RW Arthur Kaliyev"

You're saying the Flyers' pick still ends up 7th overall, meaning you're still predicting they miss the playoffs, and confident enough to think about whom you might choose with their draft pick.

Not much of a sales pitch.

If the Flyers are really willing to trade a potential first overall pick for a goalie, while they're in the bottom five of the league, I think thirty teams make offers. They probably pick Bobrovsky over Holtby due to contract status and past history. The Blue Jackets then trade Panarin to Chicago with a long term deal and tank the rest of the year, finishing with three top ten picks and a fourth next season if there's a lockout. Colorado is far enough along in building a team that they don't worry much about it, but they still maybe trade Varlamov at the deadline, if Grubauer is looking solid.
Nov. 28, 2018 at 5:18 p.m.
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Varlamov was slightly better than Neuvirth in Washington. Has done well since. He could be an improvement in net. Sure.

But in your description you wrote:
"2019 Entry Draft:
#3 (OTT pick) : C Kirby Dach
#7 (PHI pick) : LHD Philip Broberg
#24 (COL pick) RW Arthur Kaliyev"

You're saying the Flyers' pick still ends up 7th overall, meaning you're still predicting they miss the playoffs, and confident enough to think about whom you might choose with their draft pick.

Not much of a sales pitch.

If the Flyers are really willing to trade a potential first overall pick for a goalie, while they're in the bottom five of the league, I think thirty teams make offers. They probably pick Bobrovsky over Holtby due to contract status and past history. The Blue Jackets then trade Panarin to Chicago with a long term deal and tank the rest of the year, finishing with three top ten picks and a fourth next season if there's a lockout. Colorado is far enough along in building a team that they don't worry much about it, but they still maybe trade Varlamov at the deadline, if Grubauer is looking solid.


I just based the Draft on the position of the 3 teams as of Nov 27th. Don't look any further. I know that Philly will probably require a Top 10 protection on the pick. And good chances they will go up the rankings with improved goaltending. Maybe it will end up being a 15-20th pick overall in 2019 or it will be delayed to 2020. Who knows ?

My point is: If I put myself in Sakic's shoes, I actively shop Varly. It's value is probably at the highest right now. If they signed Grubauer for 3 years at $3.33M/year it's certainly not because they intend to offer another big contract to Varlamov. And PHI is actually a team that urgently needs elite goaltending in hoping to save their season.
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