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Team: 2018-19 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 2, 2019
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Wings behind Buffalo in rebuild need draft picks.
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Jan. 2, 2019 at 9:23 p.m.
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I'm not a Buffalo Sabres fan, but I don't think they should do this trade. Their second line hasn't developed yet and it would be better for their future if they keep their 3 first rounders.
Jan. 2, 2019 at 9:26 p.m.
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Nyquist isn't waiving for Buffalo, As of now they're barely even in the playoff race. I see Goose in either Pittsburgh, Boston or Nashville those teams are closer to cup contention then Buffalo.
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Jan. 2, 2019 at 9:34 p.m.
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Maybe?

Good player... but as of now,
we need center help more than a winger
And our GM has been very vocal about not trading 1sts unless it’s for a younger player

If we are looking for a winger,
I think I’d rather go after Stone as a UFA and not give up assets instead
Jan. 2, 2019 at 9:39 p.m.
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I dunno how likely Sabres are to part with that pick. If STL continues to tank, it's not a bad shot at a very high pick
Jan. 2, 2019 at 10:15 p.m.
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Can he play center?

Athanasiou would interest me much more as well.
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Jan. 2, 2019 at 10:21 p.m.
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I don’t think the Red Wings are that far behind Buffalo in the rebuild.

I love that they have three sound centers of the future with Larkin and Rasmussen, Veleno in the future and they have AA who can play the spot in a pinch.

What the Wings really need to do now IMO would be to add some more defenseman to their prospect pool and invest some firsts .

If they ever tried to deal with Buffalo, then I think Guhle, Samuelson, or Bryson should be of interest.

Overall I think the Wings are in a great position with their rebuild, Ken Holland has actually done a good job up to this point

My only pet peeve with them is I think at some point they will move on from Blashill and I don’t think it’s fair since he inherited a declining team.
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Jan. 2, 2019 at 11:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Larkinisking
Nyquist isn't waiving for Buffalo, As of now they're barely even in the playoff race. I see Goose in either Pittsburgh, Boston or Nashville those teams are closer to cup contention then Buffalo.


Now I wouldn't count Buffalo out to quick. They seem to have it figured out. Do I think they make tithe playoffs this year probably but I don't see them making it out of the first round. There are too many stacked teams in the east this year! But a lot of those teams are going to look different next year and the year after. I can see Buffalo being a serious contender in a couple of years. I think that Nyquist might want to go there and could see him signing an extension there as well because they are a team on the rise. Now that's just what I think.
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Jan. 2, 2019 at 11:43 p.m.
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Can he play center?

Athanasiou would interest me much more as well.


I'd assume Nyquist can play center. Center or wing he is a true 200ft player and takes Defense as seriously as offense. Sorry but AA isn't going to be traded, not this year at least.
Jan. 3, 2019 at 12:06 a.m.
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Now I wouldn't count Buffalo out to quick. They seem to have it figured out. Do I think they make tithe playoffs this year probably but I don't see them making it out of the first round. There are too many stacked teams in the east this year! But a lot of those teams are going to look different next year and the year after. I can see Buffalo being a serious contender in a couple of years. I think that Nyquist might want to go there and could see him signing an extension there as well because they are a team on the rise. Now that's just what I think.


Nah, they are 4-7-4 in their last 15. They were a popular pick as a surprise team and the 10 game win streak was certainly nice, but it was a lot of smoke and mirrors. They are getting absolutely no production from any forward not playing with eichel. Botterill has said he isnt trading firsts for rentals, and although gms have been known to fib, it makes too much sense to not believe him. Also, somebody else mentioned the stl pick, its top 10 protected, it looks like its getting pushed to next year. In the 15 games since their winning streak, no forward from the bottom 9 has more than 3 points. That includes sheary, okposo, mittlestadt, pominville, thompson, sobotka, girgensons, and larsson. We are what we are, a one line team with shockingly bad production from the other lines. This isnt the year to throw around mid first rounders for one player on an expiring deal.
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Jan. 3, 2019 at 12:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Ristoeichel
I don’t think the Red Wings are that far behind Buffalo in the rebuild.

I love that they have three sound centers of the future with Larkin and Rasmussen, Veleno in the future and they have AA who can play the spot in a pinch.

What the Wings really need to do now IMO would be to add some more defenseman to their prospect pool and invest some firsts .

If they ever tried to deal with Buffalo, then I think Guhle, Samuelson, or Bryson should be of interest.

Overall I think the Wings are in a great position with their rebuild, Ken Holland has actually done a good job up to this point

My only pet peeve with them is I think at some point they will move on from Blashill and I don’t think it’s fair since he inherited a declining team.


Quoting: Ristoeichel
I don’t think the Red Wings are that far behind Buffalo in the rebuild.

I love that they have three sound centers of the future with Larkin and Rasmussen, Veleno in the future and they have AA who can play the spot in a pinch.

What the Wings really need to do now IMO would be to add some more defenseman to their prospect pool and invest some firsts .

If they ever tried to deal with Buffalo, then I think Guhle, Samuelson, or Bryson should be of interest.

Overall I think the Wings are in a great position with their rebuild, Ken Holland has actually done a good job up to this point

My only pet peeve with them is I think at some point they will move on from Blashill and I don’t think it’s fair since he inherited a declining team.


I disagree Detroit has a lot left to do in their rebuild.They have to rebuild their whole pipeline and it because we've traded away all our prospects and picks to win now. With Rassmunsen, Cholowski and now Hornek in Detroit That leaves Evgeny Svechnikov, Velano and maybe McIsaac and Lindstrom as real NHL talent. Sure we some other guys in the system but most of them are grinders and role players.

That's where Blashill comes in he still stuck in the old NHL when you had two talented lines and 2 lines of grinders and role players. The guys who work their ass of and do exactly what the coach tells them to. But the salary has forced NHL to change. Now you need good younger players on entry level contracts to stay competitive. The players that are ready to come up first are the more talented players and not the grinders and role players. So now the more successful teams have 3 talented lines and one grindline. Blashill hasn't figured it out yet or refuses to change and has 2 lines of grinders.

Ken Holland is better than average when it comes to drafting but not so much with player management. That could be because for the longest time the Wings had the win now mentality no matter how many picks or prospects get traded. Holland has been with the Wings way to long he played for the Wings both Adirondack and Detroit from 1983-1985. Then started as a scout in 1985 and moved up to GM. But he has lost overall perspective how else do you explain multiple contracts that are to high and just about everyone has a no trade clause. I can only hope Yzerman starts next season and hopefully he brings Quinnville with him.
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Jan. 3, 2019 at 12:34 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
I disagree Detroit has a lot left to do in their rebuild.They have to rebuild their whole pipeline and it because we've traded away all our prospects and picks to win now. With Rassmunsen, Cholowski and now Hornek in Detroit That leaves Evgeny Svechnikov, Velano and maybe McIsaac and Lindstrom as real NHL talent. Sure we some other guys in the system but most of them are grinders and role players.

That's where Blashill comes in he still stuck in the old NHL when you had two talented lines and 2 lines of grinders and role players. The guys who work their ass of and do exactly what the coach tells them to. But the salary has forced NHL to change. Now you need good younger players on entry level contracts to stay competitive. The players that are ready to come up first are the more talented players and not the grinders and role players. So now the more successful teams have 3 talented lines and one grindline. Blashill hasn't figured it out yet or refuses to change and has 2 lines of grinders.

Ken Holland is better than average when it comes to drafting but not so much with player management. That could be because for the longest time the Wings had the win now mentality no matter how many picks or prospects get traded. Holland has been with the Wings way to long he played for the Wings both Adirondack and Detroit from 1983-1985. Then started as a scout in 1985 and moved up to GM. But he has lost overall perspective how else do you explain multiple contracts that are to high and just about everyone has a no trade clause. I can only hope Yzerman starts next season and hopefully he brings Quinnville with him.


I think the great scenario for the Wings would be Holland moving upstairs to team president and Yzerman as GM
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Jan. 3, 2019 at 2:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Larkinisking
Nyquist isn't waiving for Buffalo, As of now they're barely even in the playoff race. I see Goose in either Pittsburgh, Boston or Nashville those teams are closer to cup contention then Buffalo.


Barely even in the playoffs? Theyve been top 3 in the strongest division for most of the season...
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Jan. 3, 2019 at 2:33 a.m.
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Botterill already said hes not moving a first for a rental
 
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