3 WAY DEAL OTT-CBJ-NYI

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Created by: TkachukNorris79

Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2019

Published: Feb. 1, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

This trade works for all teams, I think. NYI gets the intel that Duchene would stay in CBJ for 8x8. Straight swap with Panarin as chances of keeping Duchene are higher.

NYI are they buyers, giving up futures for a star player. Dobson is clearly the main piece. Ho-Sang probably holds the value of a mid 2nd round.

CBJ swaps star for star, Duchene for Panarin. Basically the same age, Panarin is the better point producer but Duchene is a center and can also play the wing well if necessary. They're gonna get similar cap hits, plus CBJ has been linked to Duchene before. CBJ also gets Dzingel (Abramov/2020 2nd), which comes with the chemistry with Duchene.

Ottawa gets plenty of futures. Tried something similar to the first Duchene trade.

Trades

OTT

Abramov, Vitaly
Panarin, Artemi
2020 2nd round pick (CBJ)

CBJ

OTT

Dobson, Noah
Ho-Sang, Joshua
2019 1st round pick (NYI)

NYI

Panarin wants to play in NY. Agrees to sign 8x8.5 on Feb 26.

Buyouts

Alexandre Burrows: $2,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Dion Phaneuf: $1,750,000 (25%)

Buried

Mike Condon: $1,375,000 ($2,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020
2021

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$79,500,000	$71,659,999	$0	$4,245,000	$7,840,001

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
MacArthur, Clarke $4,650,000$4,650,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2		Stone, Mark $7,350,000$7,350,000 RW UFA - 1
Boedker, Mikkel $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $3,100,000$3,100,000 C UFA - 2	Ryan, Bobby $7,250,000$7,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Smith, Zack $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 3	Tierney, Chris $2,937,500$2,937,500 C UFA - 2	Gáborík, Marián $4,875,000$4,875,000 RW UFA - 3
	Paul, Nicholas $650,000$650,000 C, LW UFA - 1	White, Colin $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C, RW UFA - 1
Tkachuk, Brady $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) LW UFA - 3		Ho-Sang, Joshua $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) RW, C UFA - 1
Pääjärvi, Magnus $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Panarin, Artemi $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW UFA - 1
Abramov, Vitaly $730,833$730,833 ($182,500$182K) LW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Borowiecki, Mark $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 2	Ceci, Cody $4,300,000$4,300,000 RD UFA - 1	Anderson, Craig $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Chabot, Thomas $863,333$863,333 ($360,000$360K) LD UFA - 2	DeMelo, Dylan $900,000$900,000 RD UFA - 2	Nilsson, Anders $2,500,000$2,500,000 G UFA - 1
Harpur, Ben $725,000$725,000 LD UFA - 2	Jaros, Christian $755,000$755,000 ($70,000$70K) RD UFA - 2
Lajoie, Maxime $710,000$710,000 ($70,000$70K) LD RFA - 3
Dobson, Noah $925,000$925,000 RD RFA - 4

Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:24 a.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Take out Dobson and add someone not Dobson Wilde Wahlstrom or Sorokin

Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:32 a.m.

agillette1

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Take out Dobson and add someone not Dobson Wilde Wahlstrom or Sorokin

What he said. Otherwise I love this deal for the Isles

Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:39 a.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Take out Dobson and add someone not Dobson Wilde Wahlstrom or Sorokin

One of Dobson, Wilde or Wahlstrom need to be involved or it doesn't make sense for Ottawa imo.

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Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

One of Dobson, Wilde or Wahlstrom need to be involved or it doesn't make sense for Ottawa imo.

They are getting NYI first, and you have Ho-Sang coming the other way.

Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

They are getting NYI first, and you have Ho-Sang coming the other way.

But that's not enough if Ottawa gives up Both Zinger and Dutch. We could get a 1st for Zinger and a 1st ++ for Dutch.

Feb. 1, 2019 at 9:54 a.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

But that's not enough if Ottawa gives up Both Zinger and Dutch. We could get a 1st for Zinger and a 1st ++ for Dutch.

that's there fault I wouldn't pay Duchene and Dzingel for him.

Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:47 a.m.

EzioUchiha

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

They are getting NYI first, and you have Ho-Sang coming the other way.

That 1st round pick will most likely be a mid 20s.

Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:48 a.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: EzioUchiha

That 1st round pick will most likely be a mid 20s.

Maybe, but this draft is stacked so you aren't really losing out on much.

Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:52 a.m.

TkachukNorris79

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TkachukNorris79

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Maybe, but this draft is stacked so you aren't really losing out on much.

"this draft is stacked" comes up at every draft. That isn't a factor in trades. The pick will likely be mid 20's. If Panarin is signing in NY, Dobson/Wilde/Wahlstrom will be involved. Vegas gave up Suzuki for Pacioretty. Panarin>>>Patches.

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Feb. 1, 2019 at 10:55 a.m.

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Jacketsman61

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This not very good for the Jackets. They would be better off trading Panarin directly to NYI and get the package being sent to Ottawa and try to sign one or both of Duchene and Dzingel as free agents.

Feb. 1, 2019 at 11:06 a.m.

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TkachukNorris79

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TkachukNorris79

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Quoting: Jacketsman61

I guess, but you're pushing for a cup run, you can't afford to lose Panarin for futures and drastically decrease your teams' chances at making the playoffs. That'd be crazier than STL dealing Stasny at the deadline, and that didn't work too well for them (we'll see how Bokk pans out but they missed the playoffs)

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Feb. 2, 2019 at 11:02 a.m.

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EzioUchiha

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Maybe, but this draft is stacked so you aren't really losing out on much.

tbh, we won't be certain until 2-3 year. The 2016 NHL draft was supposed to be a deeper draft than 2015's. In the end, it turns out the 2015 draft was better than the 2016's (at least for now). Also the 2017 draft wasn't supposed to be a very good draft, yet this draft has been better than expected (Heiskanen, Pettersson, Frost, Primeau, Romanov, Batherson, Formenton, DiPietro, Comtois, Luukkonen).

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