Regardless of where Edmonton sits come the Trade Deadline (TDL) they should look at selling. I have read a few articles from prominent Oilers bloggers (lowetide & Willis) suggesting this. Edmonton at the TDL should look to move contracts like Kassian, Reider, Russell, Petrovic, Benning, Chaisson, Brodziak, Manning and Talbot.
Lucic is a summer move whether that is a retained salary trade or buyout so dont expect anything on that front anytime soon.
For asset returns EDM should be looking for picks, prospects, RFA's and AHL/NHL value players. There is some youth coming in the Oilers system so it wont hurt to allow kids like Benson and Marody to see some NHL time in the near future and Jones showed he can play already.
Here are my Trade Proposals:
1. Kris Russell to CGY, with Stone hurt and his return date not solid Calgary is looking for a 3rd pairing guy to fill that spot and add depth. Also Russell wont accept a trade outside of Western Canada and Calgary is his destination of choice.
2. Reider to COL for picks, the Avs lack secondary scoring which Reider does not cure but they play fast hockey and a system that would fit. Could be a cheap acquisition that pays off well.
3. Chaisson to MTL, the Habs are in the thick of the Atlantic race and while they wont pay big for rentals this TDL Chaisson would add bottom 6 depth and would not cost a kings ransom.
4. Benning to VAN, the nucks are sitting in a wildcard spot and could look to add to their blueline by adding the RHD Benning. Pouliot is an expiring RFA that may interest the Oilers due to his powerplay abilities.
5. Petrovic & Kassian to NSH, pure rental trade for the preds to add Petro for depth in the post season. Kassian, traded with retained salary, fills a similar role as Watson does with their pesty, physical & skill game.
6. Talbot to Tampa, the bolts could gamble to bring in a experienced netminder to backup Vas. EDM would retain salary and take salary / contracts back in order to make it fit.
7. Brodziak to BOS, solid 4th line pivot and always seemed like a fit for the bruins. Would add depth for playoffs and carrys a low cap hit.
3rd round might be high but MTL wouldnt trade a AHL/NHL dman with 3 points for a value contract who currently has 17 goals??
McDavid factor. I will let the scouts do their jobs. I just don't see him as better than what we already have. Ouellet can atleast chip into our weak LHD, and I hope Bergevin is going to do what he can to get Laval to the playoffs.
Tampa is happy with Domingue so that's a no-go. A couple of these aren't terrible but none make enough sense to happen. Like if you trade Brodziak then we're short our pk and 4th line centre, probably would get a 6th or 7th pick for him anyway. Rieder probably gets you a 5th. Calgary probably doesn't go for Russell even at 3m hit. Benning for Pouliot is a big question mark. Overall, you're undervaluing 3rd round picks.
I Like the Pouliot for Benning trade because Benning is a right shot and assuming Juolevi and Hughes make the Canucks next year we would have 4 LD with those 2 Edler and Hutton where as the Right side is weaker with Tanev, Stetcher and Gudbranson. Adding Benning would help!
Tampa is happy with Domingue so that's a no-go. A couple of these aren't terrible but none make enough sense to happen. Like if you trade Brodziak then we're short our pk and 4th line centre, probably would get a 6th or 7th pick for him anyway. Rieder probably gets you a 5th. Calgary probably doesn't go for Russell even at 3m hit. Benning for Pouliot is a big question mark. Overall, you're undervaluing 3rd round picks.
I think they all make sense, perhaps the return isnt right on but there is logic behind each deal. Also Edmonton needs to free up cap space which would work against them so it probably lessens there returns but i did not factor that into the deals. As far as the 3rd round picks go teams seem more than willing to trade them, in fact recent Oil history 3rd round for Marody, 3rd+ for Petrovic & Davidson to NYI for 3rd round pick
3rd round might be high but MTL wouldnt trade a AHL/NHL dman with 3 points for a value contract who currently has 17 goals??
I think a team might part with a 3rd for Chiasson since he's big, skates well, and has just won a cup with the Caps, but maybe not Montreal as the destination since we are still rebuilding our cupboards, maybe the Avs - they could use depth for a playoff run and since thanks to Ottawa they may be picking in the top 5 plus having another 1st rounder, they can have a pretty impactful draft day even if they part with a few of their later picks.
I think a team might part with a 3rd for Chiasson since he's big, skates well, and has just won a cup with the Caps, but maybe not Montreal as the destination since we are still rebuilding our cupboards, maybe the Avs - they could use depth for a playoff run and since thanks to Ottawa they may be picking in the top 5 plus having another 1st rounder, they can have a pretty impactful draft day even if they part with a few of their later picks.
Agreed, love those factors and i think people forget that GM's typically overpay at the deadline. I actually suggested the Avs in a older thread as a possible destination
Domingue carried us when Vasy was out. His career save % includes playing for the Arizona ****show
By that same logic Domingue SV% should also get a major boost from playing in Tampa and Talbots would take a major hit because EDM is a nightmare.
Again all i was suggesting was TB add a veteran like Talbot to bolster their playoff depth, when you are a good team you can afford to add by spending picks
I think they all make sense, perhaps the return isnt right on but there is logic behind each deal. Also Edmonton needs to free up cap space which would work against them so it probably lessens there returns but i did not factor that into the deals. As far as the 3rd round picks go teams seem more than willing to trade them, in fact recent Oil history 3rd round for Marody, 3rd+ for Petrovic & Davidson to NYI for 3rd round pick
Marody is decent prospect, Davidson is a very useful bottom pairing D-man, and Petrovic has always been held in high regard but simply hasn't showed that in Edmonton yet. Teams will pay a third for what they really need, my point is that in these trades that motivation doesn't seem to be there. Like I said, they're not terrible but just a bit unrealistic.
Marody is decent prospect, Davidson is a very useful bottom pairing D-man, and Petrovic has always been held in high regard but simply hasn't showed that in Edmonton yet. Teams will pay a third for what they really need, my point is that in these trades that motivation doesn't seem to be there. Like I said, they're not terrible but just a bit unrealistic.
Marody is a prospect, Davidson was claimed off waivers the same year he got dealt for a 3rd, Petrovic is having a down year. (Filter cap friendly trades to show trades including 3rd round picks)
Teams seem more than willing to part with 3rd rounders. And did you read the description explaining the "motivation" on these deals? Which trade is unrealistic, the one that i traded Lucic, Sekera, Manning & Spooner
By that same logic Domingue SV% should also get a major boost from playing in Tampa and Talbots would take a major hit because EDM is a nightmare.
Again all i was suggesting was TB add a veteran like Talbot to bolster their playoff depth, when you are a good team you can afford to add by spending picks
Domingue spent much more time in Arizona than he has in Tampa
Marody is a prospect, Davidson was claimed off waivers the same year he got dealt for a 3rd, Petrovic is having a down year. (Filter cap friendly trades to show trades including 3rd round picks)
Teams seem more than willing to part with 3rd rounders. And did you read the description explaining the "motivation" on these deals? Which trade is unrealistic, the one that i traded Lucic, Sekera, Manning & Spooner
I read them all, and like I said, none make enough sense to happen, a couple make no sense, but I've seen worse
Everyone's boilerplate response to every Edmonton trade. Why don't you do some research prior to posting?
- Chiasson has a 55 GF% without McDavid, he's 11-9. With McDavid, he's 13-13, so he has actually done better without.
- Chiasson has scored 2-4-6 with McDavid this years, and 7-1-8 without. ALL of his points are primary points, too.
- Chiasson's scoring rates (points/60) are 1.43 with McDavid, 1.57 without. (all numbers 5v5)
I think they all make sense, perhaps the return isnt right on but there is logic behind each deal. Also Edmonton needs to free up cap space which would work against them so it probably lessens there returns but i did not factor that into the deals. As far as the 3rd round picks go teams seem more than willing to trade them, in fact recent Oil history 3rd round for Marody, 3rd+ for Petrovic & Davidson to NYI for 3rd round pick
I think they all make sense too. I have suggested Talbot to SJS for Dell + 3rd, that might be a better destination.
I think they all make sense too. I have suggested Talbot to SJS for Dell + 3rd, that might be a better destination.
Ya thats a solid suggestion too. Much like Tampa San Jose is looking primed for a playoff run an could use a bonafide NHL goaltender to provide capable work in a backup capacity.
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