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Oshie replacement Nyr trade

Created by: Capitalfail67
Team: 2018-19 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 17, 2019
Published: Feb. 17, 2019
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If Oshie s out for awhile
Trades
WSH
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Zuccarello, Mats ($2,250,000 retained)
NYR
  1. Bau-Hansen, Mathias
  2. Bowey, Madison
  3. Johansen, Lucas
  4. 2019 1st round pick (WSH)
  5. 2019 3rd round pick (WSH)
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Conditional 3rd if caps make it to the 3rd round.
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22$79,500,000$64,190,962$82,500$1,100,000$15,309,038
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
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UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
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$5,166,667$5,166,667
RW
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
LW
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$6,700,000$6,700,000
C
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$900,000$900,000
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,415,000$2,415,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
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UFA - 8
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
G
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UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
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UFA - 3
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$650,000$650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
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Feb. 17, 2019 at 11:30 p.m.
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Absolutely not
Feb. 17, 2019 at 11:30 p.m.
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Zucc half retained is worth 1st+Bowey. So your offer for the 7th overall pick from 2017 is pretty much Johansen, Bau-Hansen and a conditional 3rd round pick.

NYR easily declines. Andersson's much more valuable than what you're offering.
Feb. 17, 2019 at 11:41 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Zucc half retained is worth 1st+Bowey. So your offer for the 7th overall pick from 2017 is pretty much Johansen, Bau-Hansen and a conditional 3rd round pick.

NYR easily declines. Andersson's much more valuable than what you're offering.


Draft position hardly matters and Luca jo is a former 1st round pick also.

So I’m offering you a lhd prospect for a center prospect who during his time playing in New York has hardly impressed.

Don’t diminish Luca jo that’s just silly. And you’re glorifying Anderson based off draft position

He has 6 points in 28 games. That’s far from impressive. Yeah he’s young but hardly impressive.

Petterson was pick 2 spots higher.....
Feb. 17, 2019 at 11:46 p.m.
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Absolutely not


Bowey and 1st = zucc easily

Luca jo + average prospect conditional 3rd = Andersson

Absolutely not haha?
Feb. 17, 2019 at 11:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Draft position hardly matters and Luca jo is a former 1st round pick also.

So I’m offering you a lhd prospect for a center prospect who during his time playing in New York has hardly impressed.

Don’t diminish Luca jo that’s just silly. And you’re glorifying Anderson based off draft position

He has 6 points in 28 games. That’s far from impressive. Yeah he’s young but hardly impressive.

Petterson was pick 2 spots higher.....


Quoting: Capitalfail67
Draft position hardly matters and Luca jo is a former 1st round pick also.

So I’m offering you a lhd prospect for a center prospect who during his time playing in New York has hardly impressed.

Don’t diminish Luca jo that’s just silly. And you’re glorifying Anderson based off draft position

He has 6 points in 28 games. That’s far from impressive. Yeah he’s young but hardly impressive.

Petterson was pick 2 spots higher.....


Point being that Andersson's potential is higher. Therefore he was picked earlier.

And I agree with you there that draft position does not mean too much - but that's around 2-3 years after the said draft imo. Before that, the draft position holds some value, because usually the more potential as a young player you have, the higher your pick is.

28 games, 6 points. Still better than Johansen's 0 games and 0 points. Not impressive, either.

Besides, NYR has too many LHD prospects. They don't even need Johansen.
Feb. 17, 2019 at 11:51 p.m.
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Point being that Andersson's potential is higher. Therefore he was picked earlier.

And I agree with you there that draft position does not mean too much - but that's around 2-3 years after the said draft imo. Before that, the draft position holds some value, because usually the more potential as a young player you have, the higher your pick is.

28 games, 6 points. Still better than Johansen's 0 games and 0 points. Not impressive, either.

Besides, NYR has too many LHD prospects. They don't even need Johansen.


Yeah nyr should have him in the ahl .... and not really? Luca jo is developing well in the ahl. That’s how it normally works in our franchise..... But if you want him playing 28 games on what I assume is on the 4th line? Seems like a complete waste.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 12:00 a.m.
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Yeah nyr should have him in the ahl .... and not really? Luca jo is developing well in the ahl. That’s how it normally works in our franchise..... But if you want him playing 28 games on what I assume is on the 4th line? Seems like a complete waste.


The difference with a bottom and the former cup winner. Bottom teams try to raise their young players' potential and confidence in the big league (although I don't think Andersson is currently in the NYR main roster), whilst top teams usually let their juniors develop in the AHL. Still it doesn't diminish neither of the players' potential and value, unless they can't do sh*t in either place.

Still I'd say Andersson > Johansen by quite clear edge. One is younger, has higher upside in potential, has already some NHL experience and to be fair, he isn't stuck in a prospect logjam in his team.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Point being that Andersson's potential is higher. Therefore he was picked earlier.

And I agree with you there that draft position does not mean too much - but that's around 2-3 years after the said draft imo. Before that, the draft position holds some value, because usually the more potential as a young player you have, the higher your pick is.

28 games, 6 points. Still better than Johansen's 0 games and 0 points. Not impressive, either.

Besides, NYR has too many LHD prospects. They don't even need Johansen.


I just looked up nyr d prospects and the best one is HÁJEK

He’s played 53 games. 5 points and is a -23 in the ahl

Luca is -10 but he has 10 points In 22games.

Imo Luca would be their best d prospect and he’s just about nhl ready.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 12:05 a.m.
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I just looked up nyr d prospects and the best one is HÁJEK

He’s played 53 games. 5 points and is a -23 in the ahl

Luca is -10 but he has 10 points In 22games.

Imo Luca would be their best d prospect and he’s just about nhl ready.


I'm not too certain about NYR prospects, I'm not a NYR fan. I remember some NYR fans wailing about how they don't need no LHD prospects anymore in some WPG trade posts. Think it was something like Kevin Hayes for 1st+Logan Stanley(LHD).
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The difference with a bottom and the former cup winner. Bottom teams try to raise their young players' potential and confidence in the big league (although I don't think Andersson is currently in the NYR main roster), whilst top teams usually let their juniors develop in the AHL. Still it doesn't diminish neither of the players' potential and value, unless they can't do sh*t in either place.

Still I'd say Andersson > Johansen by quite clear edge. One is younger, has higher upside in potential, has already some NHL experience and to be fair, he isn't stuck in a prospect logjam in his team.


There is 1 year difference in age.

Again this season

Luca has 10 points in 22 games as a dman

Andersson has 6 points In 28 games

Now points aren’t everything. But Luca is going to be elite.

I honestly dont think you are fully aware of how good he actually is....
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 12:07 a.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
I'm not too certain about NYR prospects, I'm not a NYR fan. I remember some NYR fans wailing about how they don't need no LHD prospects anymore in some WPG trade posts. Think it was something like Kevin Hayes for 1st+Logan Stanley(LHD).


Teams can always use A level top pairing potential d prospects. Ha idc who you are. That’s like saying you have too much money.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 12:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
There is 1 year difference in age.

Again this season

Luca has 10 points in 22 games as a dman

Andersson has 6 points In 28 games

Now points are everything. But Luca is going to be elite.

I honestly dont think you are fully aware of how good he actually is....


I'm not. I don't really know anything about Johansen. I don't follow AHL too much. It's way too early to say that one player's "going to be elite" when a 21-year old hasn't played a single game in NHL.

Btw, Andersson has 6 points in NHL. Johansen 10 in AHL. There's a MAJOR difference in there.
Feb. 18, 2019 at 12:12 a.m.
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I'm not. I don't really know anything about Johansen. I don't follow AHL too much. It's way too early to say that one player's "going to be elite" when a 21-year old hasn't played a single game in NHL.

Btw, Andersson has 6 points in NHL. Johansen 10 in AHL. There's a MAJOR difference in there.


Hes unfortunately stuck there bc of how deep the caps are..... that’s why they are probably going to trade him. Alexeyev is way better than him
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Bowey and 1st = zucc easily

Luca jo + average prospect conditional 3rd = Andersson

Absolutely not haha?


Thats not near andersson's value
Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:43 a.m.
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Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Zucc half retained is worth 1st+Bowey. So your offer for the 7th overall pick from 2017 is pretty much Johansen, Bau-Hansen and a conditional 3rd round pick.

NYR easily declines. Andersson's much more valuable than what you're offering.


If the issue is Zuccarello, I mean, the Caps aren't short of right wings who can play in middle six roles. Even with Oshie out: Wilson, Burakovsky, Connolly, Smith-Pelly, Jaskin, Barber, Megna, Sgarbossa, or Travis Boyd can play right wing.

Zuccarello's good, but if we're talking about this like the Caps really need a right wing because Oshie left a game early for no reason anyone's aware of?

Maybe we should focus on just talking about adding a top center prospect, while also being willing to take back a right wing as a cap dump, if Oshie happens to be out for a while.

Maybe the Rangers get all the picks and prospets in the world for Zuccarello, Kreider, and Fast. Or maybe they're happy to just move one of them cheaply and develop new guys while they're rebuilding, rather than spend more years losing, unnecessarily, because they waited too long for just the right offer?
Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:49 a.m.
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Thats not near andersson's value


Thanks. That's half of an answer. What is Andersson worth? Or, if he's not available, is there a different future 2nd line center prospect up for discussion?
Feb. 18, 2019 at 10:50 a.m.
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Thanks. That's half of an answer. What is Andersson worth? Or, if he's not available, is there a different future 2nd line center prospect up for discussion?


Hes worth probably a mid to late first on his own and the rangers probably would want an overpay if they were looking to trade him
Feb. 18, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Thats not near andersson's value


im certain you aren't fully aware of Luca jo value then..... either way agree to disagree
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Ignore the folks above - Rangers gladly accept
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