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Created by: Capitalfail67

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 6, 2019

Published: Mar. 6, 2019

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marner is arguably better than matthews.....gets a comparable contract

Kapanen is on pace for 50-60 points ....players like Evander Kane and Guentzel...cough cough nylander

nylander is a .67 ppg player and this season hes .42ppg

KAPANEN is a .42 ppg career and this season hes .64ppg

JOHNSSON is a career/this season .57ppg

if nylander makes about 7 million based off those numbers thats how I would value kap and aj

all that being said this is imo the worse case scenario.....and they are only 4.5 million over the cap. its not nearly as bad as you would think esp since most of the contracts would be 1-2 million higher than reality

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell	5	$11,500,000
Johnsson, Andreas	5	$4,000,000
Kapanen, Kasperi	5	$5,000,000
Petan, Nicolas	2	$850,000
Ozhiganov, Igor	3	$1,250,000

Trades

TOR

Connauton, Kevin
2020 3rd round pick (ARI)

ARI

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,000,000	$81,696,366	$0	$82,500	$1,303,634

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marleau, Patrick $700,000$700,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $11,500,000$11,500,000 RW UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Kapanen, Kasperi $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW UFA - 3
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1	Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Petan, Nicolas $850,000$850,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2		Bracco, Jeremy $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ozhiganov, Igor $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA	Sparks, Garret $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Connauton, Kevin $1,375,000$1,375,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1
	Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

Mar. 6, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.

bigguycom

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You need to factor in who those guys play with, I'm sure someone cheaper can play with Matthews and still put up 50. This is why I don't see them getting near that money.

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Mar. 6, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.

PenGoater99

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A powerplay merchant RW is arguably better than the best 5v5 scorer in the game?

Yeak ok.

Mar. 6, 2019 at 1:55 p.m.

palhal

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If you're doing comparable shouldn't Pastrank and Kucherov be brought into the conversation for right wingers? Players who are were about to become UFAs or one year from being a UFA shouldn't be compared to players coming off their ELCs.

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Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:03 p.m.

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: PenGoater99

A powerplay merchant RW is arguably better than the best 5v5 scorer in the game?

Yeak ok.

stupid comment as usual .....

marner has 20% of his points on the power play

Austin matthews hes 26% of his points from the power play

and marner drives the play and creates offense the same if not better than matthews

idk why I respond to you bc you just blindly state stupid things all the time....... so that being said is marner earn a lower percent of points on the power play

also Jake guentzel has the 2nd most 5v5 goals this year ...... is he better than matthews now?

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Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:05 p.m.

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: palhal

you could but then you have to factor in state tax and why its more manageable to sign such to a lower contract....pasta is a solid contract but again title is no discounts and that wouldn't apply to the theme

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:06 p.m.

tydini11

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Quoting: PenGoater99

A powerplay merchant RW is arguably better than the best 5v5 scorer in the game?

Yeak ok.

Every time I see Matthews score its because he's right in front of the net while Marner is out there working his butt off all over the ice every game.

Tell me Marner is worse than Matthews

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Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:06 p.m.

Fignn

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Tyler Ennis is a .516 ppg and .425 ppg this season mostly on the fourth line, give him and extra 200K and 2 years and he can play along Mathews. Cap problem solved.

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Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:13 p.m.

BeastMode5515

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Quoting: tydini11

Every time I see Matthews score its because he's right in front of the net while Marner is out there working his butt off all over the ice every game.

Tell me Marner is worse than Matthews

Marner is worse than Matthews

Matthews has the best wrister in the league

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Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:15 p.m.

BigNamTheMan

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Quoting: tydini11

Every time I see Matthews score its because he's right in front of the net while Marner is out there working his butt off all over the ice every game.

Tell me Marner is worse than Matthews

Marner is worse. If you only see Matthews score in front of the net you either don't watch or don't pay attention.

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:24 p.m.

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PenGoater99

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

How is what I've said stupid?

There is a reason why I said Matthews is the best 5v5 scorer in the league.

For their careers: Marner had 45% of points via the PP, Matthews only 26%. (Of Matthews' 104 goals, 80 have been 5v5 that's 77%)

You can't look at 2/3 of one year and come to this conclusion.

Besides that, you can't really compare them, one is a shoot first sniper, the other is a past first playmaker.

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Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:27 p.m.

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PenGoater99

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Quoting: tydini11

Every time I see Matthews score its because he's right in front of the net while Marner is out there working his butt off all over the ice every game.

Tell me Marner is worse than Matthews

You watching them doesn't mean anything.

And Marner is worse than Matthews.

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:29 p.m.

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: PenGoater99

contract year is 100% based off last season/current season

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:33 p.m.

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Fignn

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

contract year is 100% based off last season/current season

Dubus has already said that a centerman will make more that was directed at the Marner camp.

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:35 p.m.

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Fignn

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Quoting: PenGoater99

You watching them doesn't mean anything.

And Marner is worse than Matthews.

That's why Mathews makes more he know where to go and stay open Marner needs to try or and fight for the puck to get it. The puck finds Mathews this the difference between one making more and one will make less.

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:37 p.m.

#15

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Fignn

Dubus has already said that a centerman will make more that was directed at the Marner camp.

hard to back that statement up when marner will break 100 points and matthews hasnt come close to 100 points yet....... or just in general what a 100 point player would make

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:41 p.m.

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PenGoater99

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

hard to back that statement up when marner will break 100 points and matthews hasnt come close to 100 points yet....... or just in general what a 100 point player would make

Many things wrong here:

Matthews plays with worse linemates (Kapanen and Johnsson), whereas Marner plays with Tavares and Hyman, and Matthews missed 10+ games this year, so the 100+ point argument is flawed.

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.

#17

PenGoater99

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

contract year is 100% based off last season/current season

You have any evidence to back that up?

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:47 p.m.

#18

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: PenGoater99

no flaw...... matthews hasnt reached 100 points......injuries are a part of hockey and unfortunately hes been hurt 2x. fact is that marner will hit a milestone matthews hasnt. and both his line mates are very good

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:48 p.m.

#19

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: PenGoater99

You have any evidence to back that up?

John Carlson.....James Neal....I mean how many do you want? thats why "a contract year" is a thing

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:51 p.m.

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PenGoater99

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

John Carlson.....James Neal....I mean how many do you want? thats why "a contract year" is a thing

Carlson was really good before his big deal, plus he is a RHD, meaning he would have gotten paid either way

Neal was paid due to his goalscoring record, not because of this time in Vegas

Mar. 6, 2019 at 2:55 p.m.

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PenGoater99

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

A large reason why Marner will hit 100 points is due to the PP and Tavares, and staying healthy. His QoT is a large elevation factor. That's simply what it is.

Mar. 6, 2019 at 3:13 p.m.

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Carlson was really good before his big deal, plus he is a RHD, meaning he would have gotten paid either way

Neal was paid due to his goalscoring record, not because of this time in Vegas

no they had very good seasons. Carlson was a 30-40 point dman then he had one very impressive season and got 8 million..........but regardless players them and many other cash in after 1 great season

Mar. 6, 2019 at 3:16 p.m.

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: PenGoater99

A large reason why Marner will hit 100 points is due to the PP and Tavares, and staying healthy. His QoT is a large elevation factor. That's simply what it is.

he has 18 ppp of his 82 total points ....... thats hardly due to power play points. marner is 5th in the nhl in esp.....5th

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