Question What would it cost NYR to acquire Hamilton this offseason

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Created by: rja

Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 28, 2019

Published: Mar. 28, 2019

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I was curious what others might think the price on Hamilton, or even Faulk might be. There is a chance that CAR does not wish to re-sign Hamilton at the end of the contract (because he may ask for more than they are comfortable), and there is also a chance Adam Fox decides to test free agency and not sign with CAR. CAR may then wish to maximize return on at least one of their RHD assets.

I figured that they could be interested in a cheaper option to replace Hamilton in Pionk (so CAR's right side would be Pesce Faulk Pionk). I know that Hamilton produces way more, but they are getting back a NHL defenseman who can move the puck. Also, CAR might possibly need replace Ferland if he leaves, so I thought Namestnikov could work. Historically, he has shown that he puts up numbers with top players like Stamkos, so maybe he slides onto the Aho line? I understand he's not as large as Ferland, but he plays bigger than his size, and CAR already has decent size to begin with.

I know they have time left on his contract, but the sooner you move Hamilton, the more return you should receive.

Other than that, I am not sure what else to add here. Should the pick be a first? Should a prospect be added? Let me know your thoughts.

Trades

NYR

Hamilton, Dougie

Additional Details:

Trade in the offseason; Hamilton has 2 years left on his contract.

CAR

Namestnikov, Vladislav
Pionk, Neal [RFA Rights]
2019 2nd round pick (DAL)

Additional Details:

*Namestnikov agrees to an extension with CAR

Buyouts

Dan Girardi: $3,611,111
Brad Richards: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Ryan Spooner: $900,000 (22.5%)

Buried

Matt Beleskey: $825,000 ($1,900,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2019
2020
2021

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
17	$82,500,000	$58,813,609	$0	$1,332,500	$23,686,391

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $4,625,000$4,625,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 3
Vesey, Jimmy $2,275,000$2,275,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Strome, Ryan $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Fast, Jesper $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW UFA - 1
Chytil, Filip $894,166$894,166 ($350,000$350K) C, LW UFA - 2	Andersson, Lias $894,166$894,166 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 2
	Howden, Brett $863,333$863,333 C, LW UFA - 2
	Nieves, Cristoval $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Staal, Marc $5,700,000$5,700,000 LD NMC UFA - 2	Hamilton, Dougie $5,750,000$5,750,000 RD UFA - 2	Lundqvist, Henrik $8,500,000$8,500,000 G NMC UFA - 2
Skjei, Brady $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD UFA - 5	Shattenkirk, Kevin $1,750,000$1,750,000 RD NTC UFA - 1	Georgiev, Alexandar $792,500$792,500 ($132,500$132K) G UFA - 1
Hájek, Libor $833,333$833,333 LD UFA - 2	Smith, Brendan $4,350,000$4,350,000 LD/RD, LW M-NTC UFA - 2

Mar. 28, 2019 at 6:47 p.m.

Ragsandbluesfan

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Kreider, which I would decline

Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:03 p.m.

EGM

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Zibanejad, Skjei and 1st, your asking Carolina for a top 3 defenceman in the league over the past three years, NYR going to have to pay up if they want him.

Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:11 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: EGM

Zibanejad, Skjei and 1st, your asking Carolina for a top 3 defenceman in the league over the past three years, NYR going to have to pay up if they want him.

#1- thats wayyyy too much
#2- Hamilton is very good and clearly a #1D but he's not top 3 in the league

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Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:26 p.m.

buchiegang

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Quoting: EGM

Zibanejad, Skjei and 1st, your asking Carolina for a top 3 defenceman in the league over the past three years, NYR going to have to pay up if they want him.

Hahahahhahahahahahahaha

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Mar. 28, 2019 at 7:53 p.m.

xxNYRxx

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Quoting: EGM

Zibanejad, Skjei and 1st, your asking Carolina for a top 3 defenceman in the league over the past three years, NYR going to have to pay up if they want him.

You have point, the offer above is insufficient, but yours is nothing short of Lunacy.... that package you've mentioned gets much more than just dougie Hamilton...

Mar. 28, 2019 at 8:41 p.m.

UpsideDownQue

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Quoting: EGM

Zibanejad, Skjei and 1st, your asking Carolina for a top 3 defenceman in the league over the past three years, NYR going to have to pay up if they want him.

Hamilton is absolutely not top 3 in the league...

Mar. 28, 2019 at 9:44 p.m.

rja

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Quoting: xxNYRxx

You have point, the offer above is insufficient, but yours is nothing short of Lunacy.... that package you've mentioned gets much more than just dougie Hamilton...

I know it's not enough; I am asking what else needs to be added.

Mar. 28, 2019 at 10:08 p.m.

aspina25

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Quoting: EGM

Zibanejad, Skjei and 1st, your asking Carolina for a top 3 defenceman in the league over the past three years, NYR going to have to pay up if they want him.

Is Carolina throwing in Aho too?

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Mar. 28, 2019 at 10:28 p.m.

Shifttee

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If the Ranger's first is around 6th overall that strait up would be enough

Or WPGs 1st, Namestnikov and Brett Howden (assuming WPGs pick is around the 28 range)

Mar. 28, 2019 at 11:08 p.m.

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palhal

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If Canes think they are OK on defence, and need help at forward....then something like 2 years of Hamilton for one year of Kreider and Namesnikov. Rangers might fill their forward need with Panarin.

Mar. 29, 2019 at 8:23 a.m.

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Spanky227

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Pionk Namestnikov and WPGs 1st should be enough really.. I would not pay more than that personally

Mar. 29, 2019 at 2:27 p.m.

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xxNYRxx

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Quoting: aspina25

Is Carolina throwing in Aho too?

Svechenkov too...

Mar. 29, 2019 at 2:29 p.m.

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xxNYRxx

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Quoting: rja

I know it's not enough; I am asking what else needs to be added.

Not you, ..... the Zib, Skjei 1st trade for D. Hamilton.... ridiculous....

Mar. 29, 2019 at 4:53 p.m.

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rja

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Quoting: xxNYRxx

Not you, ..... the Zib, Skjei 1st trade for D. Hamilton.... ridiculous....

No I knew what you meant by that, but I was asking what else needs to be added to the original post's proposal.

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