Why would tampa want a defenseman who literally plays no defense? Especially for one of the best centers in the league...

Ottawa declines. We aren't trading Batherson and a 2019 32 overall and a 2020 32nd overall for a guy over 30

Ghost's defensive woes are vastly over exaggerated. Sure he isn't going to hit people off the puck but he uses his stick pretty well. He is also on a very team friendly contract and Tampa has like 3 dmen under contract next year and already up against the cap. As stated, Tampa will most likely find a way to dump off contracts to fit him under the cap but it's going to take a lot of players to jettison. This trade would give them two roster players, a prospect, and (as it stands right now) the 11th overall pick.

Already finishing in last place next year? lol
Ottawa has a ton of cap space and needs some skill up front. Batherson could be interchanged with another prospect.

I hope we re-sign Ceci for 1 year because we need him to tank. And yes if this team gets Byfield or Lafreniere, and somehow ends up with another top 4 RHD, they could mean business

He has a 32.7 dZS% how is that over exagerated?

Not sure how a lower dZS% = bad at defense. He's an offensive defensemen so of course his dZS% is going to be low, and it's actually 43.5% from the numbers I'm looking at (https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/PHI/2019.html). Giroux's is 47.3%, I guess he can't play defense either?

Because he thinks that is the only stat that matters. He has now tried to use it multiple times without having anything else to support his argument.

Maybe he is secretly Doug Armstrong trying to lower the fan's perspective on Ghost's value to try and get him cheaper?

No that is his overall stat this season it's a 32.7% dZS

I hate Ghost. Like I would rather keep Bouwmeester than have Ghost.

All you care about is that he has 60 points as his career best last year. So that already proves you wrong. Sure he can get an A2/60 of 0.6, but all you say is "tell me when drouin hits 60 points" just so you know twittling your d*ck because he had 60 points last year off tons of Secondary Assist Points is r*tarded. Enlighten me on how Gostisbehere's 37 Points is better than Drouin's 52. Of course you won't be cause obviously like every single Toronto fan every single Philly fan thinks their players are god, and Simmonds deal was a steal he should get 11 firsts because McDavid=Simmonds. That is the exact type of fan you are. 32.7% dZS v a 36.3 dZS Drouin has better defense. Drouin 52 Points Gostisbehere has 37 Points, and most of those points are literally A2/60 SECONDARY ASSISTS. Secondary assists are literally the worst thing to say oh "our player is better than yours because he has more points haha". It's ridiculous how bad people are on here nowadays.

Gostisbehere has a ****ing 18 Takeaways to literally 50 Giveaways
Drouin 49 Takeaways to 47 Giveaways.

(For the dumb one DirtyDangle let me dumb it down to your level) it means he gives the puck up more than he can get the puck back. You look at how bad that defense is bud.)

Gostisbehere is literally not a D-Man worth having period. He makes Muzzin look good on defense.

32.7% is not 47%

Using your logic Raffl is a defensive stud! 61.8 dzs%

does he play over 20 Minutes a game? Does he maybe play on defense? Does he play top line guys? Does he reach expectations?

Just from this convo you think Gostisbehere is the best Defenseman in the League, a profound logic of those who are casual fans to the league and diehard fans to their team.

Please site where I said he is a top D man...

You clearly are stating that "tell me when Drouin hits 60 Points we will keep Ghost with his 60 point production" that clearly means you are saying he is better than Drouin which then also means you think he is one of the best defenseman in the league. Tell me is he better than Hedman Subban Doughty Burns Heiskanen Ristolainen Pietrangelo Jones Parayko Keith Klingberg Barrie Theodore OEL?

Wow, you sure do love making up my opinion for me don't you? Let me break it down for you...you said Ghost is not and never will be in the same realm as Drouin. So I stated that Ghost, as a D man, had 60+ points one year, something that Drouin has never done. Tell me how that means I think Ghost is one of the top D men in the league. I love the fact that you included Ristolainen in your list. And you say Ghost can't play D

Make up opinions? You are literally saying Gostisbehere is worth a Top Line Center because he had 60 Point last year. When he has Mid 30 Points this year, and terrible job on defense.

Risto can't play D, but he is better on Offense than Gostisbehere does.

Interesting seeing as Ghosts P/60 is 1.5 and Risto's is 1.3

Yeah 1.5 of Secondary Assists. if you look at A2/60.

Oh you and your secondary assists. So you don't like the fact that he can move the puck up the ice to his forwards. Brilliant! Ghost 16 secondary assists. Risto 15...OH MY GOD HE IS WAY BETTER! Did you know that Ghost has more goals?

When you pass the puck up the ice and they pass for the assist. That is really skillful bravo bravo. You passed the puck passed center ice for the guys who are making the player. Yeah definite Norris Candidate for sure.