Oilers need to add if they want Ehlers, RNH isn't enough.

Why would they give up a guy who can play wing and C and is heir best 2 way player for just a winger? No chance Edmonton would do that, nevermind add to it.

How???? Nuge is way more valuable than ehlers. Why would the oilers trade a 2 way center for a one dimensional winger. A mediocre one dimensional winger at best. Oilers can get a better deal for a 37 point winger somewhere else.

Okay I'll ask you both this, why would the Jets trade a young winger who's locked up for 5 years longer then RNH is for a C that's gonna need a big raise in just two seasons? It's the difference in the length of their deals as to why I think this is a bad deal for the Jets and it's the reason why this trade is proposed the way it is cause in the long run the Oilers get what they need and don't have to pay RNH in two years something he likely won't live up to.

I don't think RNH is due for a "big" raise as good 2nd line centers should be in the 6-7M range. Regardless RNH has more value to the Oilers as he allows the flexibility to shift the top 6 around and cover for any potential injuries

I'm not denying any of that but Ehlers contract is pretty good value so trading him straight up for a guy due a raise which who knows could go as high as $8 million by then depending on what the market does or even worse RNH could just walk away a free agent is what makes this a bad deal for the Jets. It'd be a pretty bad asset management by the Jets imo.

Agreed.. I don’t think Nuge is due for a massive raise. I think they can lock him up for about 7 M which is marginally higher that what he is making now. If the new GM can be smart with the cap unlike Chia, then that should be more than affordable. Especially with the Leon contract looking like a steal. Jets also have to clear cap space immediately, and I think Ehlers might be someone they may have to move. Unfortunately recency bias with Ehlers’ production may hurt the Jets here.

Nuge is not "way more valuable", and Ehlers is not mediocre. I don't think the Oilers need to add. Pretty even swap right now, imo. RNH has more experience, but is also close to his ceiling. Ehlers is already more productive, despite a down year, and has 4 more years of growth before he approaches his ceiling.

I'll quote my comment from another thread:
Nuge isn't worth more than Ehlers and if he is, the difference isn't significant and his shorter contract negates it anyway.
RNH: 8 seasons, 3 20+ goal seasons, 1 60+ point season.
Ehlers: 4 seasons, 3 straight 20+ goal seasons, 2 60+ point seasons.

Look at the career ppg, the fact nuge is a center and kills penalties makes him significantly more valuable

I have looked at the career p/g. In the last 4 years, Ehlers is .67 and RNH is .69 p/g.
If you count the extra 4 years RNH has in NHL experience, that 0.02 gap becomes 0.04.

Yes RNH is a center and kills penalties, and that has some value, I'm not arguing that. I'm saying it is not "significantly more value".
The value that does present, is mitigated by his contract being significantly shorter.
Given the 2 years of a .71 p/g player vs 6 years of a .67 p/g player, the longer contract is more valuable because that player is also younger with more room to grow.

Winnipeg is in a position where they need a Center and a shake up to get over a playoff hump immediately. RNH's contract expiring is less of a factor for them, because they believe they can win within the 2 years they will have him. Edmonton is nowhere close and has a number of issues to solve. Ehlers will still be around in 2 years, after they have hopefully sorted everything out.

All things considered. Without bias or tinted lenses. RNH for Ehlers is close enough to an even swap and it benefits both teams.

Edit: I should clarify that just because it's fair doesn't mean you have to agree the trade should happen. I'm simply saying it makes sense and the value is there.

I totally get your point, the oilers can’t afford to make anymore trades where they trade away the best player in the trade. Nuge has been a good soldier for this team. He’s the longest serving player on the team, I don’t think anyone is worried about him not resigning in Edmonton at the moment. Of course I can’t say that for sure and lots can change in 2 years. Even if he resigns at a 7 million dollar cap hit would still prefer him to ehlers. I would still take ehlers on the oilers but not at that price.