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Karlsson Add is Possible

Created by: UnrealDeal14
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2019
Published: May 17, 2019
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All starts with Karlsson wanting to be in Tampa and taking a small paycut and taking advantage of no state tax. If he wants to be there to play with a good friend (Hedman) and be back in the east for his wife.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$825,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
1$900,000
2$6,000,000
1$925,000
2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,750,000
3$3,000,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav [RFA Rights]
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (COL)
2.
TBL
NYR
  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (COL)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (TBL)
3.
TBL
  1. Anisimov, Artem ($1,250,000 retained)
  2. Kayumov, Artur [Reserve List]
  3. 2019 4th round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$82,648,331$0$1,362,500$351,669
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$3,300,000$3,300,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
C
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
$8,750,000$8,750,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$147,500$148K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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May 17, 2019 at 11:07 a.m.
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you are pretty low on some of your salaries here.. and absolutely screwed next year as you have a ton of expiring RFAs you'll want to resign (Sergachev, Cernak, Vasilevskiy, Cirelli, Joseph, etc) and no notable salaries going off the books.
May 17, 2019 at 11:08 a.m.
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I dont think avs are going to be giving up a good young C and a 2nd for a guy who is still good but Tampa desperately needs to shed Cap....I believe you would have to od that the other way around.

and you are low on the Karlsson. Min is 9.5m. He wont take anything less than 9 regardless fo the state
May 17, 2019 at 11:16 a.m.
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TB has no need for Karlsson and shouldn't sign him. If TB needs a RD, sign a more affordable role guy who does his job and thats all. No need to go out and try and get the best player for every position, because that will never work
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May 17, 2019 at 11:16 a.m.
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As a leafs fan, I hope you sign Karlsson for 7 years, because I think he is about to take a dive, if it hasnt already started....
And what incentive does Point have to take a short term deal where he has clearly proven he is deserving of an 8 year deal at an AAV that probably starts with a 10...
May 17, 2019 at 11:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Spanky227
you are pretty low on some of your salaries here.. and absolutely screwed next year as you have a ton of expiring RFAs you'll want to resign (Sergachev, Cernak, Vasilevskiy, Cirelli, Joseph, etc) and no notable salaries going off the books.


See below for salaries, and yes next year is just another year of massaging the cap. Killer and possibly Miller need to go, or Stralman resigning may need to be changed. Main parts can stay though.

Quoting: coga16
I dont think avs are going to be giving up a good young C and a 2nd for a guy who is still good but Tampa desperately needs to shed Cap....I believe you would have to od that the other way around.

and you are low on the Karlsson. Min is 9.5m. He wont take anything less than 9 regardless fo the state


Personally I didn't think Kamenev was above replacement, as he didn't show much in his 30ish games. Could switch with another young bottom 6 but I didn't see much room for him with Mac. Jost, and likely Cozens. And like I said Karlsson would have to take a small hit. If you actually look at salaries Mcdonagh is making 8,400,000 and P Kane at 9,800,000. They're actual take home cash is only 400,000 apart. More of a ego sacrifice on the cap number not his pockets.

Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
TB has no need for Karlsson and shouldn't sign him. If TB needs a RD, sign a more affordable role guy who does his job and thats all. No need to go out and try and get the best player for every position, because that will never work


Perfect debate, does Tampa actually need him.... Probably not, but the Leafs didn't really need Tavares either and they may be interested in shaking it up amidst some let downs. Tough to turn a superstar away if he wants to play for you.

Quoting: KoneDome
As a leafs fan, I hope you sign Karlsson for 7 years, because I think he is about to take a dive, if it hasnt already started....
And what incentive does Point have to take a short term deal where he has clearly proven he is deserving of an 8 year deal at an AAV that probably starts with a 10...


He may because of injuries and age but he is right in their core age group. Risk/reward. And Tampa has a very long history of young star's taking bridge deals and then taking care of them next time. It would start with a 10 in Toronto or most other markets, but Tampa has established a culture of this team first mentality. Maybe he goes against the grain but all their best players have followed that mantra.
May 17, 2019 at 12:22 p.m.
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Personally I didn't think Kamenev was above replacement, as he didn't show much in his 30ish games. Could switch with another young bottom 6 but I didn't see much room for him with Mac. Jost, and likely Cozens. And like I said Karlsson would have to take a small hit. If you actually look at salaries Mcdonagh is making 8,400,000 and P Kane at 9,800,000. They're actual take home cash is only 400,000 apart. More of a ego sacrifice on the cap number not his pockets.


Avs are not taking Cozens. He was very good in his stint before he was injured. So I don't think you follow the Avs at all to make those sort of statements.
Karlsson left Ottawa bc he wanted fair market value. He's not taking sub 9m when he was offered 8x10m in Ottawa. Be realistic
May 17, 2019 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Avs are not taking Cozens. He was very good in his stint before he was injured. So I don't think you follow the Avs at all to make those sort of statements.
Karlsson left Ottawa bc he wanted fair market value. He's not taking sub 9m when he was offered 8x10m in Ottawa. Be realistic


Who would be preferred at #4 (Cozens, Turcotte, ?), is a #2 C or wing not a bigger need than D if Byram falls to 4?

Granted I don't watch every Avs game, but I'm not sure what metric or eyeball test made him very good. Again I reiterate if the Avs have a sentiment towards him another bottom 6 ELC could be substituted. Only picked him for the Russian factor with Tampa.

I think it's well known Karl left Ottawa for other reasons than money. Melnyk refusing to spend to be competitive and how the organization handled the Hoffman issue are front and center. This Tampa idea only works if he wants to be in Tampa and money is secondary. I'm sure someone would give him 11 but even then as I pointed out the actual earnings are not that different.
May 17, 2019 at 1:57 p.m.
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Quoting: UnrealDeal14
Who would be preferred at #4 (Cozens, Turcotte, ?), is a #2 C or wing not a bigger need than D if Byram falls to 4?

Granted I don't watch every Avs game, but I'm not sure what metric or eyeball test made him very good. Again I reiterate if the Avs have a sentiment towards him another bottom 6 ELC could be substituted. Only picked him for the Russian factor with Tampa.

I think it's well known Karl left Ottawa for other reasons than money. Melnyk refusing to spend to be competitive and how the organization handled the Hoffman issue are front and center. This Tampa idea only works if he wants to be in Tampa and money is secondary. I'm sure someone would give him 11 but even then as I pointed out the actual earnings are not that different.


Cozens isnt on the radar. Turcotte Dach Byram and wild card Pod

Avs have a bigger Russian factor than the Lighting. Look at their roster and draft picks over the past 3-4 years. Avs are very very comfortable with Russians and one of the outside reasons w hy its rumoured Panarin is interested at the Avs as a signing destination

Karlsson said that from the start, he wanted to be paid market value in his next contract, he is done taking home town discounts. And as a future Hall of Fame with his last change to cash in, he's not leaving multi millions on the table
May 17, 2019 at 2:13 p.m.
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- Overpay for Callahan's contract. One single 2nd rounder will be more than enough.

- Why would the Bolts want Anisimov? Waste of cap space, he's not a good player.

- Re-signing Stralman would be a massive error, even more if the salary is 3M for 3 years!!. The guy is done, let's move on.

- If Tampa would really consider signing Erik Karlsson, we'd have to get rid of 2 of Killorn, Palat and Johnson + Miller or Gourde (possibly Miller, as Gourde has a NTC kicking in July 1)
May 17, 2019 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Cozens isnt on the radar. Turcotte Dach Byram and wild card Pod

Avs have a bigger Russian factor than the Lighting. Look at their roster and draft picks over the past 3-4 years. Avs are very very comfortable with Russians and one of the outside reasons w hy its rumoured Panarin is interested at the Avs as a signing destination

Karlsson said that from the start, he wanted to be paid market value in his next contract, he is done taking home town discounts. And as a future Hall of Fame with his last change to cash in, he's not leaving multi millions on the table


Ok but my point was there depth at Center after the draft. Turcotte and Dach are Centers. Podkolzin will likely fall past being a minimum of 2 years away. Russian factor as it pertains to impact players. There are 3 NHLers including Kamenev and Varlamov is not coming back is he? I think it would shock everyone if Panarin went to Colorado.

If highest cap hit for ego is his motivator he will go somewhere else yes. Tough to say he is getting more than the 80 mill. That's 11.5 (cap hit not cash) over 7 years.

Quoting: Zwui21
- Overpay for Callahan's contract. One single 2nd rounder will be more than enough.

- Why would the Bolts want Anisimov? Waste of cap space, he's not a good player.

- Re-signing Stralman would be a massive error, even more if the salary is 3M for 3 years!!. The guy is done, let's move on.

- If Tampa would really consider signing Erik Karlsson, we'd have to get rid of 2 of Killorn, Palat and Johnson + Miller or Gourde (possibly Miller, as Gourde has a NTC kicking in July 1)


That's not a small cap hit to get someone to eat even for 1 year. If it's less that's great but with the jam they are in I would pay two late 2nd's to get out of it. He played solid shutdown minutes again and was a top PKer on a great PK so done is incorrect. He is injury prone but 3M is a discount on what he will get paid this year so hence the extra year but yes it may be undoable if Karlsson signs. The 2nd year they will have to dump a 3rd guy for sure but change seems inevitable after this year. This would be the ultimate shake up.
 
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