SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

TBL TOR Trade - would you

Created by: drumr0213
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2019
Published: May 19, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Leafs fans,

Would you trade Marleau for Killorn?
Marleau is a shorter term which the Lightning need. ie 2020-2021 Vasy, Serg, Cirelli, Cernak
Killorn is a smaller Cap hit which the Leafs need. ie Johnsson, Kapanen, Marner - these kind of creative trades can add up to key resigning(s)

Oh to my fellow Bolts fans that are gonna say we can't afford it. If we can make up teams where we can afford Point and Karlsson than we can afford Point and a "Killorn for Marleau" trade haha.
Trades
TBL
  1. Marleau, Patrick
TOR
  1. Killorn, Alex
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the CHI
2020
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
2021
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
17$83,000,000$70,673,331$0$1,362,500$12,326,669
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Johnson, Tyler
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Marleau, Patrick
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Callahan, Ryan
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Joseph, Mathieu
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Cirelli, Anthony
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Palat, Ondrej
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Gourde, Yanni
$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Rutta, Jan
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
McDonagh, Ryan
$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Cernak, Erik
$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$147,500$148K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Domingue, Louis
$1,150,000$1,150,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
Sergachev, Mikhail
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
May 19, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.
#1
SociallyHawkward
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 5,758
Likes: 6,073
No way Tampa makes this trade. They still need to sign Point. They're not taking on cap even if it comes off the books soon
May 19, 2019 at 2:46 p.m.
#2
Rangsey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 4,205
Likes: 2,933
Every team we've seen with Point+Karlsson folks have been under paying both. If you fill out the roster you'll see its pretty tight. Will certainly help with next year 12million coming off the books. Curious to see how the whole roster would pan out.

My question is. Is this an underpay from Toronto? Killorn is hardly a capdump, just doesnt sit high on Tampa's pecking order.
SociallyHawkward liked this.
May 19, 2019 at 2:55 p.m.
#3
drumr0213
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 116
Likes: 36
Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
No way Tampa makes this trade. They still need to sign Point. They're not taking on cap even if it comes off the books soon


Yzerman went after Karlsson (and Tavares) knowing Point resigning is a top priority. JBB managed the Cap for Yzerman. Meaning JBB believes we can manage the Point resigning and Karlsson resigning. If we can do that, then we can afford this. However, I love your feedback that you believe the Bolts won't take on the cap if it comes off the books soon. I try to think of creative ideas and love hearing hockey fans thoughts. Thank you smile
May 19, 2019 at 3:06 p.m.
#4
drumr0213
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 116
Likes: 36
Quoting: Rangsey
Every team we've seen with Point+Karlsson folks have been under paying both. If you fill out the roster you'll see its pretty tight. Will certainly help with next year 12million coming off the books. Curious to see how the whole roster would pan out.

My question is. Is this an underpay from Toronto? Killorn is hardly a capdump, just doesnt sit high on Tampa's pecking order.


Great thoughts. Yeah, I don't know if it moves the needle for TOR enough however a lot of the teams made by there fans involve Marleau so I figured I'd ask the question. Yeah, I agree on underpayments for the Karlsson + Point teams. Here are my thoughts, I actually don't like the idea of Karlsson in Tampa but if a guy that talented really wants to be here for a rumored large discount. You have to at least test the waters, right? It would have to be a heavy discount to work for Tampa. Like max 8 million per yr kind of discount. I know that is crazy talk and Karlsson is worth way more but if he really wants to be here than its gonna have to work for Tampa.
May 19, 2019 at 3:10 p.m.
#5
Rangsey
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 4,205
Likes: 2,933
Quoting: drumr0213
Great thoughts. Yeah, I don't know if it moves the needle for TOR enough however a lot of the teams made by there fans involve Marleau so I figured I'd ask the question. Yeah, I agree on underpayments for the Karlsson + Point teams. Here are my thoughts, I actually don't like the idea of Karlsson in Tampa but if a guy that talented really wants to be here for a rumored large discount. You have to at least test the waters, right? It would have to be a heavy discount to work for Tampa. Like max 8 million per yr kind of discount. I know that is crazy talk and Karlsson is worth way more but if he really wants to be here than its gonna have to work for Tampa.


Im saying Killorn is better. Toronto need to add.

Id more be worried about gambling on his injury. He doesnt look 100% playing for San Jose right now.
May 19, 2019 at 3:18 p.m.
#6
drumr0213
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 116
Likes: 36
Quoting: Rangsey
Im saying Killorn is better. Toronto need to add.

Id more be worried about gambling on his injury. He doesnt look 100% playing for San Jose right now.


Interesting on Killorn. Great feedback smile On EK, I agree with his injuries. At the money we are talking here, it is too much of a risk for Tampa. Maybe not for another team in a different situation than us.
May 19, 2019 at 4:22 p.m.
#7
palhal
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2015
Posts: 60,235
Likes: 23,104
Certainly Killorn uses his NTC not only on the Leafs but any team.
May 19, 2019 at 4:35 p.m.
#8
BOLTLOVER1
BOLT LOVER
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2018
Posts: 2,120
Likes: 358
JUST SAY NO TO KARLSSON .. Winners win and losers lose . He a regular season poser
May 19, 2019 at 4:40 p.m.
#9
drumr0213
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 116
Likes: 36
Quoting: palhal
Certainly Killorn uses his NTC not only on the Leafs but any team.


And that is a very fair point. Killorn has negotiated that right. What would say to Killorn waiving to go to his home town Montreal? I would imagine he would get top 6 roll and power play time as well.
May 19, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.
#10
drumr0213
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 116
Likes: 36
Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
JUST SAY NO TO KARLSSON .. Winners win and losers lose . He a regular season poser


Haha, I'm not saying to get EK. It was simply an example that we can make moves for cap space if we need to.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll