Why are you just giving away Green and Howard?

So, so, so, so much no..... this is so abysmal... 41 yo Datsyuk taking time away from younger players. giving away Green and Howard for peanuts and trading away a mobile defenseless who looks like he could be a very nice fit here, for a low pick...

bc they are old and in Howards case, he sucks. A 35 year old goalie at 4m with a 0.909 sv% last season. They would be lucky to get any real value for him.
I wouldn't even want the Avs to pick him up on Waivers, he offers little to nothing in terms of stability in a back up role

In the immortal words of Balki Bartokomous - don't be ridiculous... Howard is not an elite goalie, but he is EASILY one of the best 31 goalies in the league, which makes him a starter, period. I would easily argue that he is top 20, meaning, that at least 10 teams would be better with him as their starter (Florida, San Jose, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, New Jersey and Buffalo just off the top of my head)...

I'm not saying he is this AMAZING asset, but, quit it...

He has a dime a dozen stats but cost 4m in cap space to ride the pine as a back up? Where is the value in that? Goalies who played a min 25 games (avg number for a back up) he ranked 43 in goals against. Top 20, he is not at all. And if you think that 35 year old goalies who are declining just get suddenly better, you are in for a rude awakening next year

I agree 100% that acquiring him to be a backup would be a poor decision and I don't think Colorado is a fit (Grubauer is one of the goalies I'd put above him), but once again... he is EASILY better than 10 other goalies, starting for other teams... you seem to be be glossing over the fact that I've clearly stated that he is not a top level goalie, but it is not "best or garbage" and nothing in between... still top 20 in advanced analytics (high percentage shots faced, total shots, etc) for qualifying goalies (that played in 30+ games), so, once again... stop being ridiculous...

He may not be the best but he surely has more value than a 6th

you are not getting the point. What he is bringing in terms of quality starts, there are. younger versions of him in UFA, so why would teams give up value for him. There is Varly coming off a bad year but still better stats, Curtis McElhinney, Robin Lehner, Petr Mrázek,Ryan Miller, Brian Elliott, etc etc who all had similar to better stats that him and won't cost you a thing as a stop gap starter/back up next season.

Supply and demand, there is just no demand for Howard and what he did last year, the market is flooded with that sort of level of goaltending, when you add the 4m and 35+ contact on it, thats a tough sell

1. I'd significantly rather have Bowey than the 4th round pick. The league knows that Frk will be a UFA because he won't be tendered by DET.
2. If the Wings wanted to trade Howard for a late 2nd or 3rd round pick at the deadline, he would have been in SJS or STL right now. While his numbers don't look great, he played behind one of the worst defensive units in the league. His quality start number and quality start percentage are in the top 10 of all starters in the league (which is a measure that means he had better than league average save percentage based on the number of shots he faced), and also faced the 11th most shots in the league. I suspect he'd command about the same return at this trade deadline too, with the exact same numbers.
3. The Abdelkader and Helm buyouts are awful for DET. They are carrying those contracts for 8 and 6 years respectively.
4. If DET does sign Datsyuk, who would he be blocking? Veleno isn't going to start in the NHL (he may not see time in the NHL this year even). To me, Ras should be getting time at C, along with AA. If they did sign Datsyuk, it would be to mentor guys like Zadina, Ras, Hirose, AA, Mantha, and Larkin. DET will need at least 1 more F, even if they don't move Abs or Helm, and Ras makes the team.
5. Don't expect McIsaac to be in the NHL this year either. He'll probably play his season back in Halifax.
6. Finally, this team isn't even cap compliant. Needs to get close to $61mm to hit the floor.

Look at all the goalie trades last season Kinkaid was moved for a 5th at the deadline, Marek Mazanec for a 7th, Nilsson, Archibald for Canucks for McKenna, Pyatt and a 6th, Jared Coreau for futures, Hutchinson for a 5th. Goalies never are traded for anything of value, and especially if they are not considered starter material anymore. Maybe a 6th is a tad low but we are talking a 5th for Howard then, nothing of value in higher, Top 100 picks. Some of those goalies had similar if not better numbers than Howard

Heck even the Avs last offseason got Grubauer as an RFA for a 2nd. The goalie market is always soft, you can find sub .910 sv% goalies anywhere and everywhere so why would you give up value for one in a trade

How does Howard suck? His numbers on THIS team the last three years are outstanding.

He was terrible last year, his numbers were below league average and at his age it’s a good safe assumption they don’t really bounce back. Trying to use stats from multiple seasons ago to justify that a player is still good today, do you see the flaw in that?

If you're only going off of sv% and GAA with all the advanced stats we have in today's world, you're short sighted at best... He's on a modest 1 year deal, he's a 3 time all-star (including last season on a porous Red Wings team, where he kept them in games they shouldn't have even been in), is REGULARLY named to team USA rosters for international competition, including the Olympics(only skipped this years WC because he needed to heal)...

He is not an elite goalie. Fact.
He is still an NHL STARTING calibre goalie. Fact.
There are still at least 10 other teams that called about him as recently as the trade deadline. Fact.

But sure, you know more than the entire USA Hockey braintrust, NHL GMs and analytic experts... Just give it up already, you sound foolish...