Montreal doesn't need anymore bottom 6 players.

We already have 7 options without Lehkonen or Armia being signed.

This is the route I feel would be best for the team as well. With a supposedly loaded draft, Kreider netting a 1st, hopefully DAL Resigning Zucc for a third 1st, and a plethora of high potential players gaining experience on our NHL lineup, we should be set for the next decade. We just need some patience.

You don't sign Pulju?

Totally agree that 7 x $11M of Panarin isn't in the Rangers best interest considering how young their team is. Save the shopping spree for when Staal/Shattenkirk/Lundqvist/Smith come off the books in 2 years. Extend your core RFA's and then make a splash on July 1 if there's a player there that makes sense

Kreider is not worth a 1st round pick. I am sorry, I am a rangers fan, but that guy is not worth a 1st rounder. Edmonton is not going to do that deal

Kreider is DEFINITELY worth at the very least a 1st round pick.

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yea he is no doubt

no one is giving up a first rounder for him. They already tried with this years draft. He is 100% worth a 2nd rounder. Below are my reasoning as to why he isn't. You can say what ever you want, but his value is a second round draft pick with a player of similar caliber, points production, or two years younger.

- Has only had two 50+ point seasons in his 6 1/2 year career
- He averages just about 20 goals a season
- He is a second/third line winger on other teams
- He has one year left on his deal at $4.65 and will be asking between $6.5 - $6.8 per year

You can make that argument, but Kevin Hayes, although a center, was making more money, ended up with more money than that on his new deal, and overall is certainly not a better player than Kreider. And if you think that Kreider doesn't immediately become first line left winger in Edmonton, then I got news for ya. If EDM wants another year with Zack Kassian on McDavid's wing, then be my guest, we'll keep Kreider

Here are the reasons why the rangers got a 1st rounder

A. Kevin Hayes was a rental
B. Winnipeg needed depth at Center, which at the time was a good move, but they used him sparingly.
C. Rangers got Brendan Lemieux, true 4th liner, 3rd liner at best.
D. A CONDITIONAL 4th round pick if they won the cup, which they didn't and that wasn't until 2022.

So all in all, the rangers moved a big contract for a 1st rounder and a depth 4th liner.

Now, Kevin Hayes is a depth center that averages 40-50 points a season and can play every situation. He is 100% overpaid by the flyers because he didn't want to go there. No other team is paying almost 7.2 million for a 40-50 point depth center in the NHL.

Now, Edmonton is at 8,333,001. Take away 3.15 for Gagner, making their Cap hit at 11,483,001 and add 2,300,000 for Kreider 50% making it 9,183,001. They have 5 spots they need to fill before the season starts with 9 million and one is a goalie.

Now back to Kreider, HE IS NOT WORTH A 1st ROUNDER UNLESS IT IS FOR A RENTAL. He is a second line winger with scoring ability. You can literally put anyone with Mcdavid and Leon and they will score. Also, Kreider has a modified no trade clause, which may make EDM not even an option. I am sure his options will be limited to teams he believes can be a deep playoff contender and EDM is not one of them.

so basically even for a second rounder, you think the oilers can't afford it? And the attitude is that Kreider is not a 1st line forward, so the Oilers shouldn't go for him, even though anyone could play with McDavid and Leon and still score? So whats all the fuss about Lucic making 6 if they can stick him with McDavid and Leon and have him score 30 this year

I'm trying hard to understand your thought process and the only thing I can possibly see is if you're saying a earlier draft pick is unattainable for a rental Kreider, which may be true. But to say he cant at the least bring us a first round pick is madness to me, especially when considering a team that might be in the playoff race or a contender. Hayes is very similar to Kreider and brought us a 1st and a decent prospect at the deadline... You're telling me that someone who scores more goals and has been more productive and physical wont get a 1st? I mean for christ sake Nash who scored 28 pts brought us a 1st, Lindgren, Spooner, a 7th, and a slight cap dump in Belesky.

Edit: Respect your opinion regardless and if you're right I prefer extension over losing him.

You're right, I believe that a first rounder is unattainable for Kreider as a rental. There are not many teams that I believe he would like to go to (He has a Modified No Trade Clause) that will fork up a 1st rounder. I believe he is 100% worth a 2nd rounder and a A/B level prospect, but a 1st rounder would be too much. The only reason that Hayes was dealt for a first rounder was because Winnipeg needed depth down the middle. All teams and GM's are different. Not all GM's are going to give up a 1st for Kreider, some GM's will. My opinion like I stated is that I don't believe he has the value for a first rounder. That's all I was trying to get across. I Don't think we are getting Panarin, so I am 90% sure the rangers are going to extend him before the season is up.

Honestly, Lucic is a not a first line guy. Too many people believed that he would be able to play with those two, but it never panned out. He is more of a 3rd line guy that will bang bodies and get to the front of the net along with being a depth scorer. That team is a place where careers go to die to be honest. Also, I was kind of hinting it that Kreider has the NTC which allows him to submit I believe a 8 team no trade list or maybe even more. I guarantee you EDM is on the no trade list.

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