No needs another year at least.

I agree. I’m just being optimistic here. Maybe he has a great training camp. With Poulin, Legare, Hallender, POJ, and Addison our prospect pool hasn’t been this good in years

Almeida and Bellerive are quite good prospects as well

I think I am more happy about POJ then Galchenyuk. That being said its nice Galchenyuk is a pending FA and we have the flexibility to make some moves and room to resign a lot of RFAs.

The Penguins may not have a ton of overly intriguing pieces, but we have a decent amount of guys, and usually a lot of them end up seeing NHL time. If anything our late round picks pan out better than the higher drafted guys. Recently speaking at least. I think Almiedas ceiling could be very high.

Galchenyuk was a highly touted young forward. he hasn't been able to put it together yet but is still only 25. he could get 30+ goals on pit forsure

I still can't believe that GM JR looked at Jack Johnson and Erik Gudbranson and said to himself "I need to have these two guys on my team".

self inflicted wounds. if pens struggle, he should be fired.

im predicting 60 points for him this year 30 goals 30 assists

I have real high hopes for Almeida looks like a beast

PO's development hasn't come as far as the Coyotes would've liked it to. The scouting staff that drafted him isn't there anymore, so the new staff probably isn't high on him. His ceiling is a #4, puck mover, but at this point I see him being a good third pair guy in the mold of someone like Jordan Oesterle.

No way he should be fired. He has done way more good moves than bad. All anyone points out on this site is johnson, who hasn't been great but he is far from the disaster everyone makes him out to be. And for some reason everyone stays gudbranson was a bad trade, but he has been wonderful for the pens so far and all he gave up for him was taner Pearson he was not helpful in anyway for the pens. And he did t really add salary in getting him. Saying he should be fired is you acting like a pathetic, spoiled brat.

Gudbranson has been great for the pens. You are being unreasonable over one signing.

Dude remove your bias. That Gubranson Trade was horrible. Should’ve shipped out Pearson without taking any salary back. We could’ve used that $4 million much better. He’s an overpaid D who doesn’t fit our team identity. The Johnson signing was horrible, and so was the Reaves Trade. Rutherford has significantly hurt this team since 2017

You are out of your mind. Reaves trade was insignificant. Johnson signing was insignificant. Gudbranson signing was insignificant. None of those had any impact on the team winning or loosing. The top tier talent on the pens significantly underperformed in the playoffs and the regular season The coach couldn't adjust his system to best suit his players. That is why they lost. No other reason at all. You can make up all the excuses you want but they are wrong.

LMAO trading a prospect who turned into a viable 3C and a first round pick for a terrible 4th liner who lasted a few months in Pittsburgh is “insignificant”. Taking on 7.25 MILLION in bottom pairing defensemen is INSIGNIFICANT!!! Lmao.

Yeah sure the top tier players didn’t perform. No denying that. But it doesn’t help having D who can’t move the puck. Letang was forced to do too much. Schultz was paired with the anchor jack Johnson, and Gubranson, while solid for us, certainly isn’t worth the 4 mill price tag. The 7.25 million wasted on Gubranson/Johnson could’ve been used on good depth that could’ve helped us when our stars were struggling.

You're being a baby.

Dude, the margin of error between winning and losing in this leauge is so thin. Pens are BLESSED to have their core guys signed to such great contracts. But their mid tier contracts aren’t great value. Those are the easiest to fix. If pens didn’t have 7.25 mill invested in Gub/Johnson, they could add a SIGNIFICANT impact player

Like who? Michael Ferland? Dion phanuef? Who do you replace those defenseman with? Zach Trotman? You have to pay players. Not everyone will play for free.

Last offseason we could’ve signed DEHAAN!!!! 10X better than jack Johnson. He would’ve been a great fit on our 2nd pair with Schultz. At trade deadline, there were rumours we were in on Nick Jensen who would’ve been an excellent 3rd pairing D and signed to an extremely cheap $2.5 X 4 extension. There were different routes Rutherford shouldve/could’ve went.

Nick Jenson is trash. Calvin de hann signed for over 4 million a season. That is what you don't like about gudbranson. You are a giant contradiction who isn't smart enough to analyze and realize what the real issues are.

LMAOOO. Nick Jensen is an amazing bottom pairing D. Probably is a top 4 tbh. He can skate, move the puck, great positionally, etc... he’s supported by GREAT analytics. You probably don’t like him cause he’s not “physical enough” lmao. Dehaan with his current contract is a very good value. Once again he’s the exact type of Defensive D pens need cause he can actually skate and move the puck. Gubranson at 4 million is not a good value, dehaan at 4.5 is. The “real” issues are no different than the issues back in 2014, 2015, etc... we have overpaid depth that isn’t providing us good enough value. Gubranson and Johnson are scuderi and Erhoff with more term (and probably worse).

And none of it matters if the stars continue to play they way they do, and continue to decline, and Sullivan continues to be stubborn and not adjust. None of the players you names would have made any but of difference. You are getting caught up on the wrong issues.

Dude, they had 4 bad games. It happens. That’s why good depth is SO IMPORTANT. So when our stars aren’t producing, good depth can make up for it. In 2016 our third line was our most productive. That was the benchmark for cup success

Again, Nick Jenson and Calvin de hann, or Oskar sundqvist would not have made a difference. The points you are arguing are trivial and pointless.