Marner for Chabot and a 1st gets it done!

chabot and a 1st would suxk for sens

That'll teach him for not signing with the Leafs.

Yeah, it's Marner's fault for being really good and the Leafs apparently being unaware of this and had bad cap management with the Marleau deal and signing Tavares.

Apparently they offered 80M over 8 years... Pretty sure they know what he is. Not sure he does however.

Take some years off and he agrees.

Sure. We'll play 3 lines and 4 D so he can feel special. Or he can be the man in Ottawa and last year can be his career year.

Why's it his fault Toronto managed it poorly? Why should he take significantly less than Matthews who sure he plays center...but he doesn't kill penalties. Neither does Tavares. Yet he outscored both averaging 1:21 of PK time to Tavares' 12 seconds per game and Matthews' 2 seconds per game. Why should he give the leafs a deal? The Leafs already dicked him around once sending him back to London. Not even giving him any games because it's easier to defend that decision than sending him back after he's productive.

Career year for Marner? Yeah. Absolutely. But the Leafs signed his comp to a deal before they needed to, probably for more than they should have for not long enough. Why play hardball with Mitch and not Matthews?

ROFL Dmen are worth far more than wingers, leafs would needs to ADD more than a late 1st and Marner to get a Dman of Chabot talent and age not OTT adding..

Well faulting a player for wanting to get compensated fairly, after seeing what his teammates got, is ridiculous. They made Matthews feel special, why does Marner have to sit back and take less when he is just as important to the team? The real mistake was giving Matthews the exact contract that he wanted. No way Dubas wanted to pay him more that Tavaras AND right to UFA status. But it looked like he was trying to sign Matthews fast to make himself look competent. They set the standard for the team and dug their own expensive grave. It's also silly that these high picks are using the McDavid contract as a comparable. He won an Art Ross and Hart as a teenager. He should be in his own stratosphere.

Paul, how nice of you to join us.
Your son got sent back to London because the Leafs were rebuilding and tanking to do it. It was better for his development.
And they got Matthews. Who outscored him year one, missed time but outscored him on a per game basis year two, and yes Mitch had a great year alongside Tavares last year. The same Tavares that finished second in the league in scoring...on the islanders. Sure this was before the rules changed, and the game changed, and scoring is way, way up. Check out nhl.com and look back to the 10/11 season and see how many players put up a point per game prior to the last two years.

Here is the thing. Mitch isn't comparable to Matthews at all. Or Tavares. Tavares is hands down the best player of the three and it's not even close.
Matthews is overpaid. He scored, has great hands, but hasn't put it together yet. #1 centres are extremely hard to find and we have two. Remember Sundin? That was quite some time ago. Dubas overpaid because of the opportunity presented with that level of player down the middle.
Mitch is the third best forward on the team. In his first two years he scored 8 more points than Nylander. There is your comparable. A skilled, puck carrying winger that makes plays.

Mitch is more noticeable as is Nylander because they carry the puck and distribute it and those plays are memorable. Matthews and Tavares can have 3 and 4 point nights and you hardly notice them but you win games with them.

You're grasping at straws with your shtoi argument. Take the 80M like anyone else being offered it. Be grateful. This weak victim bull**** is disgusting.

I agree with the McDavid comment. If they used him as a comparable 9M on a five year deal for Matthews would have made sense. He has to produce well over 100 points to provide value on his contract.

I hated that deal at first too but it can't be looked at in a vacuum. Great centres are hard to find and more valuable than playmaking wingers. Goal scoring centres are even rarer.

I like Marner and believe his on ice game speaks for himself but off the ice he has some things working against him.

So why didnt Hyman produce significantly more playing with Tavares and Marner as opposed to Matthews and Nylander? If Tavares was dragging Marner around the ice, how did Marner end up with more points and more PK time and the same PP time?

You're butthurt because you think a player should take significantly less than a peer he's comparable to. If the leafs offered 10 per for 8. That's all fine and dandy. The AAV is acceptable. But the years aren't. Not when his comparable got taken to UFA. Why should he sell UFA years? I'm not saying he should get a Matthews contract. Hell, Matthews shouldn't have gotten it to begin with. I'm just saying that using Matthews as a comparable isn't that far off. Hell, give him 9.5 @5 and he probably takes that.

Hyman doesn't have NHL hands and they all avoid passing him the puck.
Over the last decade, Tavares is 7th overall in points and 3rd in goals...Marner complements him well and vice versa. Your boy scored 5 more special teams points which makes their production pretty even.

Now the mistake here is continuing to compare apples and oranges. A goal scoring centre versus a playmaking winger are not comps. We might as well compare Marner to Rielly.

Toews and Kane have made the same money since their second contracts and over the last decade, Kane has outscored Toews by 150 points and taken home a ton of hardware. Their values are similar in spite of the production difference because they play different positions.

I'm not even a Matthews fan yet. But I respect what he's done and what he has done is produce at a higher rate than Marner both in goals, by a wide margin, and points, on a per game basis. He missed some time.

Goal scoring centres are rare. Stamkos is Matthews closest comp and no one would compare Marner to Stamkos. Just because they're friends and play on the same team doesn't make them comps to one another. There is a long list of playmaking wingers around the league making between 6-8 million that could very easily be used as comps for Marner. I want to get paid like Matthews too but I can't get the Leafs to return my calls.