Johnson and a 1st for Forbort

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Created by: Quavo

Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 16, 2019

Published: Jul. 16, 2019

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Out of all the trades we could make to free up cap space and improve the defense this one is the best. Forbort is a solid defensive defenseman who would look great next to Letang or Schultz with surprisingly good offensive ability while playing on the Kings. I know a first is a lot to give up but the Penguins really need to be all in at this point

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Pettersson, Marcus		4	$2,750,000
Aston-Reese, Zach		2	$950,000

Trades

PIT

Forbort, Derek ($1,262,500 retained)

LAK

Johnson, Jack
2020 1st round pick (PIT)

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*If PIT's 2020 pick is in the top 10 LA gets PIT's 2021 1st rounder instead

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$76,788,750	$132,500	$2,850,000	$4,711,250

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Galchenyuk, Alex $4,900,000$4,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1
McCann, Jared $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
Simon, Dominik $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 6	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Aston-Reese, Zach $950,000$950,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Kahun, Dominik $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $3,750,000$3,750,000 G UFA - 1
Forbort, Derek $631,250$631,250 LD UFA - 1	Schultz, Justin $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 3
Pettersson, Marcus $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD UFA - 1	Gudbranson, Erik $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA - 2
Riikola, Juuso $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 1

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:20 p.m.

AlphaHockey65

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I would 100% do this trade. Forbort is a lot better than Johnson and we'd have 3 good D on the left side as well.
Re-sign Forbort next season with the Schultz money and we just need to find one RD.

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:20 p.m.

Pipinghotgatorade

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If LA is willing to do this that would be great. I'd even be willing to add a little if needed.

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:24 p.m.

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Quoting: Pipinghotgatorade

If LA is willing to do this that would be great. I'd even be willing to add a little if needed.

I'd think they would considering they are going through a rebuild and have Bjornfot, Clague, and Durzi waiting in the wings and if they're in cap trouble 2-3 years later they could just buy out Johnson or trade him since the term is what makes his contract so bad

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:27 p.m.

Pipinghotgatorade

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Yeah I agree. If they're willing to admit it's rebuild time it makes sense for both teams. I also think I read somewhere that LA was one of the couple teams that wasn't opposed to getting JJ.

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Pipinghotgatorade

Yeah I agree. If they're willing to admit it's rebuild time it makes sense for both teams. I also think I read somewhere that LA was one of the couple teams that wasn't opposed to getting JJ.

Yeah them and Anaheim are the two teams rumored

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:30 p.m.

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Quoting: Pipinghotgatorade

Yeah I agree. If they're willing to admit it's rebuild time it makes sense for both teams. I also think I read somewhere that LA was one of the couple teams that wasn't opposed to getting JJ.

Plus don't forget there were like 5 other teams who wanted to sign him in 2018 which is why we had to give him 5 years. There are suitors it's just a question of whether JR actually wants to trade him

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:33 p.m.

ryandrisc

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i think 1.6 will get you petterson but i like it. la or anaheim seem to be only likely dumping spots for JJ

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:37 p.m.

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Quoting: ryandrisc

i think 1.6 will get you petterson but i like it. la or anaheim seem to be only likely dumping spots for JJ

Not for 4 years it won't and I think he's worth 4 years considering he had a very good year playing with Johnson and Gudbranson

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:40 p.m.

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https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATRJune2019v2/SKATRSolo
Look at forborts chart. Not exactly a JJ upgrade

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Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:41 p.m.

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Quoting: Quavo

Not for 4 years it won't and I think he's worth 4 years considering he had a very good year playing with Johnson and Gudbranson

okay prob bet on himself and think hes worth 5/6 in two years-either way-still gotta find a dumping spot for JJ or this is a moot point.

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:43 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATRJune2019v2/SKATRSolo
Look at forborts chart. Not exactly a JJ upgrade

Keep in mind though he's playing on a last place team

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Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:49 p.m.

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@mhockey91 i agree

Forbort a negative plus minus and he's a giveaway machine. Not good defenseively. And offensively, he has never scored over 18 points which isnt great offensive work. And its not like he missed huge chunks of games either.and pettersson is being overpayed here.

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Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.

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Quoting: MajesticWalrus

Have you ever taken into account that plus minus is a useless statistic and he plays on the Kings who are one of the worst offensive teams in the NHL?

Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:52 p.m.

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Quoting: MajesticWalrus

Quoting: mhockey91

https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/SKATRJune2019v2/SKATRSolo
Look at forborts chart. Not exactly a JJ upgrade

https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard
Compare him to Johnson and see what you get

Jul. 16, 2019 at 1:21 p.m.

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Quoting: Quavo

https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard
Compare him to Johnson and see what you get

What i get from that is that forbort is better at
regaining possession
and winning the puck

But johnson is better at
not giving the puck away
and puck movement
and shooting
and passing
and possession

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