Fixing Rutherfords mistakes

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Created by: Jeuck75

Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 21, 2019

Published: Aug. 21, 2019

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Trades

PIT

Fleury, Marc-André
2021 4th round pick (VGK)

VGK

Murray, Matt
2020 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

2020 2nd round pick (DET)
2022 6th round pick (DET)

DET

Gudbranson, Erik

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$73,832,500	$132,500	$2,850,000	$7,667,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Galchenyuk, Alex $4,900,000$4,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1
Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
McCann, Jared $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 6
Kahun, Dominik $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
		Simon, Dominik $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Fleury, Marc-André $3,500,000$3,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Schultz, Justin $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Riikola, Juuso $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 3
Trotman, Zach $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 2	Johnson, Jack $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1

Who is better?

Aug. 21, 2019 at 7:18 a.m.

gregb569

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Yeah.... just no...

Aug. 21, 2019 at 7:19 a.m.

Jeuck75

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Quoting: gregb569

Yeah.... just no...

Why no?

Aug. 21, 2019 at 7:20 a.m.

gregb569

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Quoting: Jeuck75

Why no?

Every single one of those trades are unrealistic and would never happen.

Aug. 21, 2019 at 7:23 a.m.

Jeuck75

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Quoting: gregb569

Yeah.... just no...

Quoting: gregb569

Every single one of those trades are unrealistic and would never happen.

What about now?

Aug. 21, 2019 at 7:27 a.m.

gregb569

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Quoting: Jeuck75

What about now?

Murray + 1st > Fluery + 4th
Guds is not worth a 2nd and 6th, maybe a 3rd at BEST, realistically probably a 4th or 5th

Still doesn't fix JR's mistakes though... we still have Tanev signed for too much too long, JJ, the Brassard fiasco, trading for Reaves, etc

Aug. 21, 2019 at 7:57 a.m.

Hissam87

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I know I will be bashed for this but the Penguins kept the right goalie

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Aug. 21, 2019 at 8:10 a.m.

Jeuck75

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Quoting: Hissam87

I know I will be bashed for this but the Penguins kept the right goalie

It's fine we all have opinions, but Murray is always getting injured and letting his personal problems get in the way of his job. He also has good defense playing in front of him.

Aug. 21, 2019 at 8:22 a.m.

Pipinghotgatorade

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Quoting: gregb569

The acquisition of Brassard was a great move on paper. It didn't work out, but I won't say that was a Rutherford mistake either. And getting McCann and Bjugstad back in the deal to send him out was pretty good too. I agree with everything else you said though.

Aug. 21, 2019 at 8:59 a.m.

Hissam87

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Quoting: Jeuck75

It's fine we all have opinions, but Murray is always getting injured and letting his personal problems get in the way of his job. He also has good defense playing in front of him.

You can make criticisms for both goalies but I would just trust Murray more in big games. And I just think that in that situation you keep the younger goalie who has proven himself. Would've been nice to keep both though.

Aug. 21, 2019 at 9:00 a.m.

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Jeuck75

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Quoting: Hissam87

I think that the GM can choose to pay money to be exempt from the draft

Aug. 21, 2019 at 9:13 a.m.

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Quoting: Hissam87

I know I will be bashed for this but the Penguins kept the right goalie

In 6 years Murray will be better

Aug. 21, 2019 at 9:24 a.m.

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Jeuck75

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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta

In 6 years Murray will be better

Pekka Rinne vs Matt Murray
Who is better?

Aug. 21, 2019 at 9:46 a.m.

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SpaghettiPasta

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Quoting: Jeuck75

Pekka Rinne vs Matt Murray
Who is better?

Rinne. In a few years Murray will be better

Aug. 21, 2019 at 9:48 a.m.

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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta

Rinne. In a few years Murray will be better

What about this
Juuse Saros vs Matt Murray
A

Aug. 21, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.

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SpaghettiPasta

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Quoting: Jeuck75

What about this
Juuse Saros vs Matt Murray
A

Saros ? I'm a little biased though

Aug. 21, 2019 at 10:27 a.m.

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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta

Saros ? I'm a little biased though

Are you a preds fan?

Aug. 21, 2019 at 10:55 a.m.

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SpaghettiPasta

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Quoting: Jeuck75

Are you a preds fan?

No. I don't like Murray. He is my least favorite goalie. With Saros, I prefer Short goalies.

Aug. 21, 2019 at 10:56 a.m.

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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta

No. I don't like Murray. He is my least favorite goalie. With Saros, I prefer Short goalies.

Oh okay that makes sense. Preds are my team and Murray is my least favorite too

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Aug. 21, 2019 at 11:17 a.m.

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Moving Fleury was not a mistake and is the right move 10 out of 10 times (and I am not a Murray fan).

Reaves was a Lemieux move, so point your finger where it belongs.

Brassard should have been a great get. No one could have predicted that he would mentally break.

Gudbranson wouldn’t have been needed if Sullivan didn't bench anyone that showed any spine. Same goes for Tanev.

When Crosby comes in and requests that you help one of his buds, Johnson gets signed.

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Aug. 21, 2019 at 11:56 a.m.

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Quoting: gregb569

Ahhhh, Jim you've spoiled us with so many blunders

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