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Ehlers trade

Created by: CapFriendlysFinest
Initial Creation Date: Aug 23, 2019
Published: Aug 23, 2019 at 2:49
Team: 2019-20 Carolina Hurricanes
Trades
CAR
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
  2. Beaulieu, Nathan
  3. 2020 5th round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Fleury, Haydn
  2. Martinook, Jordan
  3. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Patrick Marleau: $6,250,000
  • Alexander Semin: $2,333,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Justin Faulk: $683,333 (14%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CAR
CAR
CAR
BUF
NYR
CAR
CAR
WPG
CAR
TOR
2021
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
2022
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$83,154,791$0$3,207,500-$1,654,791
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CAR
Teräväinen, Teuvo
$5,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
$8,454,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
CAR
Niederreiter, Nino
$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
CAR
Svechnikov, Andrei
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CAR
Haula, Erik
$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
CAR
Staal, Jordan
$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
CAR
Necas, Martin
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
CAR
Dzingel, Ryan
$3,375,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
CAR
Foegele, Warren
$746,667
LW
RFA - 1
CAR
Wallmark, Lucas
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
CAR
McGinn, Brock
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CAR
Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 6
CAR
Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
CAR
Faulk, Justin
$4,150,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 1
CAR
Hamilton, Dougie
$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
CAR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,125,000
G
UFA - 2
CAR
Forsling, Gustav
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
CAR
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
$2,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CAR
Gibbons, Brian
$725,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
CAR
Bishop, Clark
$700,000
C
RFA - 1
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug 23, 2019 at 2:53
#1
Ragsandbluesfan
Joined: Nov 2017
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Would it hurt to get a righty?
Aug 23, 2019 at 2:55
#2
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Would it hurt to get a righty?


I think we both know Laine would cost an Arm and a leg
Aug 23, 2019 at 2:56
#3
Ragsandbluesfan
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 12,131
Likes: 2,696
Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
I think we both know Laine would cost an Arm and a leg


No one said it had to be winnipeg, try roslo even
Aug 23, 2019 at 3:09
#4
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 6,570
Likes: 4,570
Don't think it's enough for Ehlers. Fleury isn't the prospect he used to be (probably a good #5/6 D but not the 1st or 2nd pairing guy everyone thought he'd be), Martinook isn't anything special, and that pick likely isn't a lottery pick.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 3:14
#5
Miss the Thrashers
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 7,464
Likes: 1,536
Quoting: TanSor
Don't think it's enough for Ehlers. Fleury isn't the prospect he used to be (probably a good #5/6 D but not the 1st or 2nd pairing guy everyone thought he'd be), Martinook isn't anything special, and that pick likely isn't a lottery pick.


Fleury is 22 to think this is his ceiling is shortsited and misinformed, he'll be a 2nd pairing guy, but Carolina is the wrong team to get that chance because of the already loaded blue line they have plus guys like Priskie and Bean who can fight for those spots too, somewhere like Winnipeg out of the way would fix that. Winnipeg also don't have a lot of leverage, they don't have enough cap space to realisitically resign Laine and Connor, so this taked 6 mil away and gives some good futures in return for him, I didn't make this but the logic is fairly decent if it followed this path. As for the pick not being a lottery pick, do you think anyone is gonna give up an unprotected lottery pick if they don't know for sure that they're gonna make the playoffs?
Aug 23, 2019 at 3:22
#6
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 6,570
Likes: 4,570
Quoting: Caniac2000
Fleury is 22 to think this is his ceiling is shortsited and misinformed, he'll be a 2nd pairing guy, but Carolina is the wrong team to get that chance because of the already loaded blue line they have plus guys like Priskie and Bean who can fight for those spots too, somewhere like Winnipeg out of the way would fix that. Winnipeg also don't have a lot of leverage, they don't have enough cap space to realisitically resign Laine and Connor, so this taked 6 mil away and gives some good futures in return for him, I didn't make this but the logic is fairly decent if it followed this path. As for the pick not being a lottery pick, do you think anyone is gonna give up an unprotected lottery pick if they don't know for sure that they're gonna make the playoffs?


Meh. I haven't been impressed with Fleury the 5-10 games I saw him, but I'll admit that is a limited sample size. Winnipeg will much sooner unload a contract like Perreault or Kulikov than give away Ehlers for peanuts. Sure, they're strapped with cap, but they have other options than to make a trade like this. And to answer your question: yes, I do. St. Louis gave up a 1st round pick for O'Reilly last year and while it turned out very well for them, I don't remember seeing them pegged as a favorite to win the cup anywhere.

Edit: nevermind, forgot that pick was protected. You may be right!
Aug 23, 2019 at 3:35
#7
Miss the Thrashers
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 7,464
Likes: 1,536
Quoting: TanSor
Meh. I haven't been impressed with Fleury the 5-10 games I saw him, but I'll admit that is a limited sample size. Winnipeg will much sooner unload a contract like Perreault or Kulikov than give away Ehlers for peanuts. Sure, they're strapped with cap, but they have other options than to make a trade like this. And to answer your question: yes, I do. St. Louis gave up a 1st round pick for O'Reilly last year and while it turned out very well for them, I don't remember seeing them pegged as a favorite to win the cup anywhere.

Edit: nevermind, forgot that pick was protected. You may be right!


Fleury has played 87 NHL games, it's not that he's bad it's that the Carolina blue line is dumb stacked, and while Winnipeg would rather offload Perrault or Kulikov, they're gonna have to pay to move those contracts whereas they're getting great cap-controlled, future assets that frees up the cap now for Laine and Connor. The last team to move an unprotected first that wasn't at the deadline when the playoff picture was already set may have been Toronto for Kessel way back when, I'd have to go and double check.. Teams don't move unprotected, lottery firsts. Just in case something does go wrong and they end up winning the lottery
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:48
#8
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 610
Likes: 115
If this is the best deal Chevy could get for Ehlers I would hope he passes. I believe several other teams would offer more.
 
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