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csicks TOR-OTT deal

Created by: SammyT_51
Initial Creation Date: Oct 18, 2019
Published: Oct 18 at 11:22 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
And everybody healthy

Scary ****.
Trades
TOR
  1. Tierney, Chris
  2. DeMelo, Dylan
OTT
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,434,643$0$70,000$65,357

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
OTT
Tierney, Chris
$2,937,500
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Woll, Joseph
$800,000
G
RFA - 2
TOR
Gravel, Kevin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
OTT
DeMelo, Dylan
$900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Moore, T.
Tavares, J.
Matthews, A.
Nylander, W.
Rielly, M.
Power Play 2
Timashov, D.
Kerfoot, A.
Johnsson, A.
Barrie, T.
Marner, M.
Penalty Kill 1
Tierney, C.
Mikheyev, I.
Muzzin, J.
DeMelo, D.
Penalty Kill 2
Hyman, Z.
Kapanen, K.
Gravel, K.
Dermott, T.

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Oct 18 at 11:23
#1
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 617
Likes: 157
The only thing i'd call scary s*** is having Kevin Gravel in my top 6
csick liked this.
Oct 18 at 11:25
#2
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 10,501
Likes: 4,046
Quoting: TMG
The only thing i'd call scary s*** is having Kevin Gravel in my top 6


He is better than Marincin, Harpur or anybody else and they wont play Sandin there.. it wouldve been Sandin or Kivihalme if it would be on me with Gravel being the reserve of the reserves..
Oct 18 at 11:27
#3
y i k e s
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 689
Likes: 166
Although this works on paper and @csick gets a good return as suggested for Ottawa, looking at this now, Tierney left SJS in a big part due to him growing out of a bottom line role and I’d say he’s almost top 6/ just leaving bottom 6. He wouldn’t want to play bottom line for the leafs with 0 pp time clearly unless rotated in, and maybe some PK time. I think it works in theory but Tierney would ask to not be traded to Toronto due to it being a step backwards for him, him and his agent would likely ask for it not happen (it’s not like they have power but they may just ask for anywhere else that has top 6/ middle 6 room)
Oct 18 at 11:27
#4
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 617
Likes: 157
Quoting: SammyT_51
He is better than Marincin, Harpur or anybody else and they wont play Sandin there.. it wouldve been Sandin or Kivihalme if it would be on me with Gravel being the reserve of the reserves..


Marincin is slightly better imo, plus Captain Mike is in love with him
Oct 18 at 11:28
#5
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 617
Likes: 157
Quoting: yikes
Although this works on paper and @csick gets a good return as suggested for Ottawa, looking at this now, Tierney left SJS in a big part due to him growing out of a bottom line role and I’d say he’s almost top 6/ just leaving bottom 6. He wouldn’t want to play bottom line for the leafs with 0 pp time clearly unless rotated in, and maybe some PK time. I think it works in theory but Tierney would ask to not be traded to Toronto due to it being a step backwards for him


It really doesn't matter what he wants, he doesn't have a no trade and doesn't carry the star pedigree to even make a request like that
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Oct 18 at 11:31
#6
y i k e s
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 689
Likes: 166
Quoting: TMG
It really doesn't matter what he wants, he doesn't have a no trade and doesn't carry the star pedigree to even make a request like that


Edited my comment to state that prior to this comment. But yes a player can ask, just like how many times in the past out respect or relation a GM try’s to help a player and the team rather than toss the player into a grinder. Its got nothing to do with NMC or pedigree as obvious but it hurts Tierney and could just hurt the team that looks for him to play bottom time when he should play more than that, I’d the leafs are looking for a bottom player, Tierney isn’t that
Oct 18 at 11:31
#7
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 6,060
Likes: 1,305
Quoting: TMG
It really doesn't matter what he wants, he doesn't have a no trade and doesn't carry the star pedigree to even make a request like that


Yeah plus I wonder how Kerfoot would do on the wing if he were moved. Tierney is a great setup guy and putting him next to someone with a good shot is the best thing
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Oct 18 at 11:31
#8
Thread Starter
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 10,501
Likes: 4,046
Quoting: TMG
Marincin is slightly better imo, plus Captain Mike is in love with him


Gravel is better imo. But thats small thing with number 6 Dman.

Quoting: yikes
Although this works on paper and @csick gets a good return as suggested for Ottawa, looking at this now, Tierney left SJS in a big part due to him growing out of a bottom line role and I’d say he’s almost top 6/ just leaving bottom 6. He wouldn’t want to play bottom line for the leafs with 0 pp time clearly unless rotated in, and maybe some PK time. I think it works in theory but Tierney would ask to not be traded to Toronto due to it being a step backwards for him, him and his agent would likely ask for it not happen (it’s not like they have power but they may just ask for anywhere else that has top 6/ middle 6 room)


HE does not have the star power or no-trade clause to oppose this trade. Also with Leafs.. he would have opportunity to eat opposite 4 lines with that line and top PK minutes as well.
Oct 18 at 11:33
#9
y i k e s
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 689
Likes: 166
Quoting: SammyT_51
Gravel is better imo. But thats small thing with number 6 Dman.



HE does not have the star power or no-trade clause to oppose this trade. Also with Leafs.. he would have opportunity to eat opposite 4 lines with that line and top PK minutes as well.


I clearly said he doesn’t have power to control anything, I just suggested it could come up. Never said it holds value
Oct 18 at 12:38
#10
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 615
regardless of star power. in a contract year... you really think this guy or his agent wont publicly state they do not wish to be traded to toronto. Ceci is just a cap dump for every toronto trade scenario. this is essentially bracco and a 2nd for demelo and tierney. I think the senators could get a better offer than this from a true center needy team.
 
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