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Selling Hall to MTL Palmieri to BOS Vatanen Simmonds to WPG

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Team: 2019-20 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 6, 2019
Published: Nov. 6, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Olofsson, Jacob [Reserve List]
  3. Suzuki, Nick
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Hall extends his contract with MTL
MTL
  1. Hall, Taylor ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Hall extends his contract with MTL
2.
NJD
  1. Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
3.
NJD
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
  2. 2021 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Simmonds, Wayne ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. Vatanen, Sami ($2,437,500 retained)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$68,950,263$0$6,800,000$12,549,737
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 3
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 3
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$749,167$749,167 (Performance Bonus$42,500$42K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
C
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
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$2,822,764$2,822,764
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 6, 2019 at 7:26 p.m.
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very interesting hall deal
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 8:16 p.m.
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thats a very fair deal for hall. NJ gets an elite prospect in Suzuki and mtl gets to keep thier 2020 first rd pick (the draft is in mtl). i like this
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 8:20 p.m.
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Considering the money Hall is going to make and the potential of Suzuki to grow into an offensive force in the next 2 years, I don't think MTL should do it. IMO
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 8:20 p.m.
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Your Hall trade has an interesting base but i think we need to compare it to the Stone trade and for me it makes more sens this trade:
Hall vs Suzuki, Chicago 2rd 2020 and Weal or another little contract
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: math731
Considering the money Hall is going to make and the potential of Suzuki to grow into an offensive force in the next 2 years, I don't think MTL should do it. IMO


You over value mtl player WAY too much lmao
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 8:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Unpeuoue1
Your Hall trade has an interesting base but i think we need to compare it to the Stone trade and for me it makes more sens this trade:
Hall vs Suzuki, Chicago 2rd 2020 and Weal or another little contract


you are forgetting that you lose Alzner, thats going to take a 1st and with that added cap space Hall's cap doesnt look as big, I 100% do this if im MTL. Honestly might need more considering Alzner and an extension for Hall if im NJ
Nov. 6, 2019 at 9:04 p.m.
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Quoting: shmoeman
you are forgetting that you lose Alzner, thats going to take a 1st and with that added cap space Hall's cap doesnt look as big, I 100% do this if im MTL. Honestly might need more considering Alzner and an extension for Hall if im NJ


Alzner have an easy buyout for summer 2020, so not a 1st rd pick. He's not making 6M ... Brannstrom + 2nd got Stone extended, pretty sure Suzuki J.Olofsson ( B prospect, former 2nd round pick ) + 2 high picks is enough, even if Alzner is throw in it
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.
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the winnipeg trade is a little much. i don't see winnipeg giving up a 1st for vatanen
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.
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Alzner have an easy buyout for summer 2020, so not a 1st rd pick. He's not making 6M ... Brannstrom + 2nd got Stone extended, pretty sure Suzuki J.Olofsson ( B prospect, former 2nd round pick ) + 2 high picks is enough, even if Alzner is throw in it


there are no "easy buyouts," its dead cap that no team wants to have. You also have to take into account that there are far less players available this deadline compared to last, making those guys' prices go up even more. I think its close and a pretty good trade overall, I just said if Im NJ, Im looking to get something more if im taking on Alzner as well with the amount of teams that will be chomping at the bit to acquire Hall
Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: shmoeman
there are no "easy buyouts," its dead cap that no team wants to have. You also have to take into account that there are far less players available this deadline compared to last, making those guys' prices go up even more. I think its close and a pretty good trade overall, I just said if Im NJ, Im looking to get something more if im taking on Alzner as well with the amount of teams that will be chomping at the bit to acquire Hall


ok you dont really know your hockey it's alright, I'll explain. Not all buyout are the same, look at Alzner buyout via Calculators after go to buyout calculator and look at Alzner 2020 summer buyout and look at Shattenkirk buyout for example. Alzner : 4M 2M 833K 833K Shattenkirk 1.4M 6M 1.433M 1.433M. After the trade you can compare Brannstrom + 2nd vs Stone = Suzuki + 2nd vs Hall but no wait, I throw in a former 2nd round pick in J.Olofsson + a 1st round pick. I over but overpaid, but that's the price for getting Hall (extended) + taking a capdump
Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:41 p.m.
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ok you dont really know your hockey it's alright, I'll explain. Not all buyout are the same, look at Alzner buyout via Calculators after go to buyout calculator and look at Alzner 2020 summer buyout and look at Shattenkirk buyout for example. Alzner : 4M 2M 833K 833K Shattenkirk 1.4M 6M 1.433M 1.433M. After the trade you can compare Brannstrom + 2nd vs Stone = Suzuki + 2nd vs Hall but no wait, I throw in a former 2nd round pick in J.Olofsson + a 1st round pick. I over but overpaid, but that's the price for getting Hall (extended) + taking a capdump


yea no no **** sherlock, i know not all buyouts are the same. nothing like some 13 year old that resorts to the good old "you know nothing about hockey" criticism when someone mildly disagrees with their post. I will say that I was thinking of the Olofsson MTL got from Minny a couple years ago rather than the one just recently drafted so with that in mind I think the trade is fair. No need to take it personally like everybody else does on this site if someone disagrees with you...
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Nov. 8, 2019 at 9:27 a.m.
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As a Habs fan I don't hate that deal.
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