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CUP 2020- Major Moves Made- Need thoughts

Created by: pwratt6
Initial Creation Date: Nov 18, 2019
Published: Nov 18, 2019 at 1:32 pm
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Trades
TBL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
TOR
  1. Rutta, Jan
  2. Coburn, Braydon
  3. 2020 4th round pick (DET)
TBL
  1. Hall, Taylor
NJD
  1. Cernak, Erik
  2. Foote, Nolan
  3. 2020 1st round pick (VAN)
  4. 2020 4th round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Couturier, Sean
PHI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. Verhaeghe, Carter
  3. Killorn, Alex
  4. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
Buyouts
  • Matthew Carle: $1,833,333
  • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
Buried
  • Mike Condon: $1,325,000 ($2,400,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TBL
TBL
TBL
OTT
TBL
2021
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
NSH
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$80,339,164$0$1,032,500$1,160,836
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NJD
Hall, Taylor
$3,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
TBL
Johnson, Tyler
$5,000,000
LW, C, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
$5,300,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
$5,166,666
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
$728,333
C
RFA - 1
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
$1,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
TBL
Raddysh, Taylor
$833,333
RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
TBL
Shattenkirk, Kevin
$1,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
$1,300,000
G
UFA - 2
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
$894,166
LD
RFA - 1
TBL
Schenn, Luke
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov 18, 2019 at 1:36
#1
Komarov>Tavares
Joined: Oct 2016
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I see an issue immediately
Nov 18, 2019 at 1:36
#2
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 547
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Barrie's stock has fallen, but not that much. Toronto paid a 2nd line center for him, and I doubt they settle for getting such a subpar return. Hall trade is ok. Couturier is arguably the best forward on the flyers and I don't see them trading him without a big overpay (which this is not)
Nov 18, 2019 at 1:38
#3
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Pshae6
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
whats the issue
Nov 18, 2019 at 1:42
#4
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,409
Likes: 922
That doesnt get Couts lol, also why do people keep putting him in 3C? Hes a 8-9M llayer being paid 4
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Nov 18, 2019 at 1:48
#5
GO BOLTS
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 732
Likes: 201
Barrie and Hall are rentals. How do you structure the team next year when you over the cap and at a minimum of 20 players?
Nov 18, 2019 at 2:15
#6
Oilnation
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 291
Likes: 62
Quoting: pwratt6
whats the issue


2 mil over the cap, with a 20 man roster...
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Nov 18, 2019 at 8:00
#7
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 447
Likes: 129
Sixteen teams make the playoffs every year. Some teams may be more likely to win than others, but for every individual team, the odds are that they lose. In this scenario, if we win, great. But otherwise, since Hall and Barrie are rentals, we waste Cernak, Joseph, Verhaeghe, Foote, Killorn, Rutta, Coburn, two 1sts, and two 4ths. We do get Couturier in return, who is one of the most valuable assets there are, and some of those are expendable, but overall that’s a pretty ridiculous risk. Not to mention a lot of these are underpayments from us, especially the return Philadelphia gets for Couturier, the only asset we would get to keep.

Right now, our deficiencies are mainly defensive structure and grit at forward. None of these assets really address that (Barrie is offensive, and maybe these forwards know how to be physical but they’re certainly not known as power forwards). Moving Cernak actually significantly hurts in that regard. I would prefer to address those issues specifically (Kreider + a coaching shakeup may work wonders) and not pay steep costs for big names who merely improve our strengths.
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