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Ghost is healthy scratch

Created by: felixxx07
Initial Creation Date: Nov 26, 2019
Published: Nov 26, 2019 at 1:37 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
PHI
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
  • Mike Reilly: $425,000 ($1,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
CHI
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,890,475$0$3,057,500$5,609,525
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Kinkaid, Keith
$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Hudon, Charles
$800,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Nov 26, 2019 at 1:38
#1
KFTW
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Teasdale, Lehkonen and a 2nd
Nov 26, 2019 at 1:41
#2
Thread Starter
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Quoting: csick
Teasdale, Lehkonen and a 2nd


deal! But I'd switch Teasdale with Vejdemo/other B prospect to keep quebec born players with us.
Nov 26, 2019 at 1:50
#3
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I know it's hindsight, but the Flyers should've sold high on Ghost. He's so bad defensively and now he's been relegated to an insignificant role now that Provorov has bounced back and excelled on the PP. I think this deal makes sense for both, but I doubt the Flyers wanna sell low.
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Nov 26, 2019 at 2:24
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Quoting: Brian2016
I know it's hindsight, but the Flyers should've sold high on Ghost. He's so bad defensively and now he's been relegated to an insignificant role now that Provorov has bounced back and excelled on the PP. I think this deal makes sense for both, but I doubt the Flyers wanna sell low.


Makes me scared because Montreal is a defensive first system, if you can't play defense, you aren't going to last very long on the team. Giving up a big package for someone who can't fit the system is a problem.
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Nov 26, 2019 at 2:27
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Makes me scared because Montreal is a defensive first system, if you can't play defense, you aren't going to last very long on the team. Giving up a big package for someone who can't fit the system is a problem.


Definitely. And if he's not playing 1st PP, he's not only not gonna be very productive, he's gonna be a liability.
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Nov 26, 2019 at 2:49
#6
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Quoting: Brian2016
Definitely. And if he's not playing 1st PP, he's not only not gonna be very productive, he's gonna be a liability.


I mean that's very possible, only problem is we will gave two defensemen on the first PP unit. You don't take Weber out of that.
Nov 26, 2019 at 2:54
#7
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Quoting: HabsForEver
I mean that's very possible, only problem is we will gave two defensemen on the first PP unit. You don't take Weber out of that.


No, def. not. Weber is a fixture on the top PP unit. He's been awesome in all situations.
Nov 26, 2019 at 3:43
#8
Boris Bagel
Joined: Oct 2016
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Lehkonen is better overall (valued penalty killer) and younger than Ghost (one dimensional and doesn't event produce much offense anymore), so Flyers add a 2nd round pick, not Habs.
Even Mete has more goals this season than Ghost, so not a really big upgrade on the point at all for Habs.

Not sure Ghost is a good trade for the Habs, unless it's something like: Rielly (same age as Ghostie), Weal and a 2nd for Ghostie & a 5th rounder.
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Nov 26, 2019 at 3:50
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Quoting: BorisBagel
Lehkonen is better overall (valued penalty killer) and younger than Ghost (one dimensional and doesn't event produce much offense anymore), so Flyers add a 2nd round pick, not Habs.
Even Mete has more goals this season than Ghost, so not a really big upgrade on the point at all for Habs.

Not sure Ghost is a good trade for the Habs, unless it's something like: Rielly (same age as Ghostie), Weal and a 2nd for Ghostie & a 5th rounder.


While I agree with you, Montreal is missing a top defensemen. While Ghost currently isn't playing like one, when he had confidence, he showed he had the ability to be one. These are guys MB has to take a chance on if we ever want to be a cup contender. A team with no stars and crazy depth can only get you so far.
Nov 26, 2019 at 6:15
#10
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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This Ghost deals seem to be so many Leafs deals last season for ANY RHD. Taking on long term cap at 4.5m, you better be sure the can play to his contract. It appears Ghost has declined so stay away.
Save your long term cap on a better asset.
 
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