I told you exactly why, I dont need to keep saying it. Kessels values was higher when they traded for him because of his age. Teams aren't really high on declining wingers that are a defensive liability. Youre trying way too hard to find a reason they lost this trade. Why would pittsburgh keep a guy who is having issues with the coach and a key player? Both teams got what they wanted. If they kept kessel, where are they getting money to sign murray, jarry, Petterson, riikola, simon, kahun, and McCann?

Declining? He was coming off his best 2 nhl season 92 and 82 points? What are you talking about? Teams also are willing to deal with defensive liabilities when they have massive offensive upside but you are trying way too hard to discredit kessel when he was coming off career years. Not declining at all but AGAIN agree to disagree. I personally think penguin fans get wrapped up in the media and they said there was massive beef between Malkin and kessel when there wasn’t. Kessel home game was pretty obvious they had not I’ll will towards each other. I just think a guy who posted the 3rd best stats for wingers the last 2 years would get more than a struggling winger and an average d prospect. Oh well you seem happy with the deal so that’s good

Projected over 82 games this season:
Galchenyuk-7 goals. 34 points
Kessel-16 goals. 44 points
Johnnson-16 goals. 43 points

All pretty equal players.

You two are arguing over which mushy banana has less brown spots.

this is doubtful because neither team has any desire to help TOR make the playoffs. They would have to pay up good for them to help them out.
If both teams could, they would probably prefer TOR didn't make the playoffs.

Wait hold up you think DeSmith and Copley are the same value?? Haha haha. Copley can’t crack a 900 in the AHL!

He broke 900 in the nhl so solid point. Haha carter hart and Samsonov both had very average ahl numbers also. So yeah both goalies are average at best and would have a 3rd at best round pick value

I agree I’m was just making a point that Toronto also would have zero reason to help Pittsburgh with this trade.

Oh wow a 905! That’s compared to Casey’s 917. Copley and Casey do not have the same value.

Yes hes declining, look at what hes doing this year. He has 1 even strength goal lmao. If Kessel is this great point producer, how's come he isn't a 80-90 point player in ARZ? Over half of his points this year are on the power play, at his cap hit he needs to produce more on 5v5. Look up articles on evgeni malkin about phil kessel, youll learn more. Youre saying they got roasted in the trade, but yet they are better this year than last year. Pens absolutely did not lose this deal, but since youre a fan of the caps, you want to make yourself believe they did lmao.

So your first point you made was pointless and hey both are ahl goalies. Yeah they have the same value. Copley is one way more otter and that’s what a backups job is. Sorry matter of fact they both were on waivers making the value the same to further my point haha but seriously great job digging up ahl numbers solid points

This reads like it was written by a 3rd grader

I was driving when I wrote it but your thought process is that of a 3rd grader. My Ahl goalie is better but wins less haha geez

“I was driving when I wrote it”

Ah yes, that sounds like the kind of intelligent thinking you are capable of. Dude what the actual heck! You’re going to kill somebody with that kind of apathy and stupidity. Jesus.

Or I was at a light and was rushing but you seem like the type to over react haha. Yeah I was able to mow down 30-40 people it was all over the news. Jesus. You need to smoke

Last I checked Phil had 2 even strength goals in a calendar year. 2. His value wasn’t higher than when we got him. His stats were inflated by playing for a not crap team.

I don’t think any team won that trade outright. Both teams got pros and cons to that trade. Yeah Chucky isn’t exactly lighting it up, but is only 9 points behind Kessel with 11 less games played and like 4 mins less ice time average. Not to mention the team is beyond cursed with injuries to their Top 9. Kessel WAS an 80-90 point player. The guy is only averaging around a half a point per game this year and went down the toilet the second half of last season. Most of his points came in the first half. So looks like the pens got their cups and got out at the right time before he really declined and became 100% impossible to trade, as opposed to being 90% impossible to trade. And he is also a -18 on a team you just said is top 5 in GAA. That means he is basically on the ice for the majority of Arizona’s goals against while not getting the point per game + production the pens got out of him. The pens also got cap space to get a more complete team and depth and get cap space for the next few years for their pending RFA’s. Much better than keeping a declining defensively deficient winger who didn’t want to play on the third line while the top 2 centers didn’t want to play with him at all. Keeping McCann and Petterson is better than keeping Kessel. Because those two wouldn’t be able to be re-signed by keeping kessel.