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Team: 2019-20 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 25, 2019
Published: Dec. 25, 2019
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22$81,500,000$79,496,667$0$2,412,500$2,003,333
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
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Dec. 25, 2019 at 7:34 p.m.
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Ahhh, noooooo.

You have a pretty high opinion of middle 6 forwards. Butch is worth 2nd and OK prospect. Keep Fast, no interest. But his value is a 3rd.
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Dec. 25, 2019 at 8:14 p.m.
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You forgot to add kakko
Dec. 25, 2019 at 8:19 p.m.
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Ahhh, noooooo.

You have a pretty high opinion of middle 6 forwards. Butch is worth 2nd and OK prospect. Keep Fast, no interest. But his value is a 3rd.


buch is a top 6 min what are you talking about middle 6?
Dec. 25, 2019 at 8:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Bloodykisame
buch is a top 6 min what are you talking about middle 6?



Middle 6 is line 2 and 3. Top 6 is line 1 and 2. They overlap. He’s not a first liner. Butch is a 2nd liner, Fast is a 3rd. Collectively middle 6ers.

How a player is being used and what his talent level is is not always one in the same. Depends on team depth.

Peter Mrazek is bring used as a #1 goalie in Carolina, does not mean he is one. Boston uses Heinen on 2nd, should not be. Get it?

Butch has averaged 18g and 46pts per 82games, Now go look at what similar type players have been traded for. It’s not a 1st and Studnicka.
Dec. 25, 2019 at 9:08 p.m.
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Bruins block your number
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Dec. 25, 2019 at 10:05 p.m.
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i understand i might have under valued Studnicka but at the end of the day buch brings back a similar return jt miller got. a 1st and a prospect isn't crazy to ask for.
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Dec. 25, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.
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i understand i might have under valued Studnicka but at the end of the day buch brings back a similar return jt miller got. a 1st and a prospect isn't crazy to ask for.


Take out Studnicka. Bruins still say no. It’s an absurd premise, and an absurd trade concept.
Dec. 25, 2019 at 11:42 p.m.
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Quoting: gregory_papas
i understand i might have under valued Studnicka but at the end of the day buch brings back a similar return jt miller got. a 1st and a prospect isn't crazy to ask for.


Most experts felt Nucks overpaid for Miller. And they did.

Kevin Fiala went for Granlund

Coyle went for Donato + 5th

A couple of examples of players who were not rentals with similar per 82g production.

Buch seems to be still improving so that should help. But i don’t see him becoming a regular 55-60 point player.

While you certainly could get a 1st and a prospect, it will be from a desperate GM not a smart one. His value is 2nd and prospect.

Most teams these days are not giving up 1st round picks unless they are getting a 1st line FW or 1st pair d man.

FYI - Boston has pretty much no cap space. So you might be able to pull the 1st and a different prospect if you take salary back or retain. Without that...no. That does not mean Heinen whose 17g 47pt rookie season is as good as any season Butch has had.
Dec. 26, 2019 at 2:51 p.m.
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Studnicka alone could get you Buch anda 2nd lol
Dec. 26, 2019 at 4:24 p.m.
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Studnicka alone could get you Buch anda 2nd lol


whatever you're smoking i want some of it
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Dec. 26, 2019 at 4:31 p.m.
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Take out Studnicka. Bruins still say no. It’s an absurd premise, and an absurd trade concept.


the word absurd doesn't make people sound smart, just arrogant. ludicrous, ridiculous are words intelligent people use. how often are you having a conversation with someone and they use the word 'absurd'. only douchebags use it. are you a douchebag?
Dec. 26, 2019 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: gregory_papas
whatever you're smoking i want some of it


Lol u just got rejected by 3 bruins people, clearly its a bad trade
Dec. 26, 2019 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: bsilk18
Lol u just got rejected by 3 bruins people, clearly its a bad trade


its one sided, i get it. but some of you are acting like you're holding an golden egg. i like Studnicka but you can keep him. i didn't think he had top 6 potential, i'm probably wrong. i'm sure he'll be the next Pastrnak.
Dec. 26, 2019 at 10:52 p.m.
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Quoting: gregory_papas
the word absurd doesn't make people sound smart, just arrogant. ludicrous, ridiculous are words intelligent people use. how often are you having a conversation with someone and they use the word 'absurd'. only douchebags use it. are you a douchebag?


Well, douchebaggery is a spectrum, wouldn’t you say?
I would say that ridiculous and ludicrous are in no way synonymous with absurd. Absurd implies a certain level of weird. Calling this trade ridiculous is being too kind. It isn’t just a typical lopsided ACGM venture. Those are too commonplace to even warrant a comment. Or maybe if it was just studnicka it would warrant a comment in effort to try to inform you of the level of prospect studnicka is, and what he means to the bruins organization given their depth, or lack there of at center. that would be ridiculous, and ludicrous, but understandable. You added heinen, and a first, to the already ridiculous bounty of studnicka. That breaks the barrier of understandable, sending it into the territory of absurd.

Sorry if you think that’s douchey.
Dec. 26, 2019 at 10:53 p.m.
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Quoting: gregory_papas
its one sided, i get it. but some of you are acting like you're holding an golden egg. i like Studnicka but you can keep him. i didn't think he had top 6 potential, i'm probably wrong. i'm sure he'll be the next Pastrnak.


All well and good, but if you remove him from the trade, it’s still lopsided
Dec. 27, 2019 at 10:19 p.m.
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Well, douchebaggery is a spectrum, wouldn’t you say?
I would say that ridiculous and ludicrous are in no way synonymous with absurd. Absurd implies a certain level of weird. Calling this trade ridiculous is being too kind. It isn’t just a typical lopsided ACGM venture. Those are too commonplace to even warrant a comment. Or maybe if it was just studnicka it would warrant a comment in effort to try to inform you of the level of prospect studnicka is, and what he means to the bruins organization given their depth, or lack there of at center. that would be ridiculous, and ludicrous, but understandable. You added heinen, and a first, to the already ridiculous bounty of studnicka. That breaks the barrier of understandable, sending it into the territory of absurd.

Sorry if you think that’s douchey.


That made me laugh. Thanks for the time. You’re not a douche. Merry Christmas.
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Dec. 27, 2019 at 10:28 p.m.
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That made me laugh. Thanks for the time. You’re not a douche. Merry Christmas.


Cheers! And merry christmas
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Dec. 29, 2019 at 3:27 p.m.
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its one sided, i get it. but some of you are acting like you're holding an golden egg. i like Studnicka but you can keep him. i didn't think he had top 6 potential, i'm probably wrong. i'm sure he'll be the next Pastrnak.


Dont worry, he isnt a golden egg and not even like a special elite player, but yes he is 100% top 6 potential...
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